I am getting ready to remodel a bath including replacing toilet because of out dated color. I understand all toilets are the water saver type now, some do a good job of flushing, some don't. Any advice on make and model appreciated.
I highly recommend the Toto brand of toilets. I've installed two and before I had to have plungers nearby. Now, I haven't used the plunger once in 8 months. I cannot find the research paper that I read (online, got the link from this group) but the Toto's clearly outperformed all others. Cheers, cc
flushing, some don't. Any advice on make and model appreciated.
Check out Consumers Reports at your local library - they test a bunch of models. Last test was August of 2005. I was looking myself recently, and standouts were the Elger Titan ($350), Gerber Ultra Flush
21-312 ($275), and Eljer Aqua-Saver 091-7025 (CR Best Buy, $200). Don't know about the price mentioned above - cheapest list price in their test was $160. Hope this helps. Good luck, Andy
Just make sure you get one with a fully-glazed trap (2" or larger, IIRC) and it should do a good job for you. The "Glacier Bay" one-piece toilet I bought at Home Depot last year has done a great job. Much better than the old 7-gallon-flusher it replaced. I got the one-piece kind because it's easier to clean.
Here's one link that covers the best of the breed.
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The MAP report (PDF file) listed with the first Toto is a great engineering analysis of toilet performance. For some reason it can't be downloaded right now.
Oh, we have 3 Toto's. Wouldn't have any other brand. American Standards are OK, but noisy. The Toto's are quiet. In the year since they were installed, not once was a second flush required on any of them. It is amazing to watch how they flush.
Unfortunately that's not the link I was thinking of. The research I remember seeing tested about a 100 different toilets/brands and gave the data behind them. Either way, the data still supported the Toto as being most efficient/effective. Cheers, cc
When low flush toilets first came out, they had problems, and they'd have to be flushed several times, which defeated the purpose of saving water. A plumber I know used to drive to Canada, and come back with a truck load of the old style. Last year I asked him if he still drove up there, and he said he no longer has to, because the newer low flush toilets don't have a problem.
I am going to go against the majority, my next toilet will be from canada, although I was recently told congress changed the law and stores are permitted to sell 3 gallong flushers again here. seems they finally realized that 2 low flow flushes used more water than a single
3 gallon one.
Dont get me wrong but I am tired of mucking with my toilet. some peoples solid output is larger in diameter and harder than average causing frequenbt plunging.
plus I DONT want noise, having a plunger sit by the toilet, overflows, and all the other junk.
you can buy 3 gallon flushers on e bay, from canada. shipping is costly. but so is replacing my kitchen cieling, ruined from years of overflows
Then you are the perfect candidate for a Toto. In order to meet Federal standards for toilets, they have to flush 250 grams of "stuff". The best Toto's can flush 900 grams! You won't find any
3-gallon toilets that will flush that well. The toilets we took out were very expensive (around $700 each) one-piece, 3-gallon Kohlers. They couldn't begin to flush what these Toto's can handle.
Interestingly, I had never heard of the brand until a local plumber said that was the best. It turns out that Toto is the world's largest manufacturer of toilets. Most of us haven't heard of them because they don't sell in stores like Home Depot. You have to go to a plumbing supply house or a plumber. Toto's website is here:
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The best place to buy them I could find was here:
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This is the toilet we put in. You don't have to spend that much if you go with a two-piece. Shipping is free over $199. They truck them right to your house. However, the truck driver may or may not help you get it off the truck. In our case, he did.
When our home was built, I insisted on "elongated bowl" toilets for all three bathrooms. After >14 years, I have appreciated that minor selection criteria. It's all about the comfort of USING the thing.
With the American butt getting bigger every year, I can't imagine installing a toilet, new or replacement, without its being an elongated model. They are simply more comfortable to use.
Caveat: Those that place FORM over function should know that an elongated bowl toilet significantly reduces the choices one has for a seat/lid/cover. That's OK with me as there are enough models available of sturdy, functional and color-coordinated ELONGATED seats/lids/covers for my needs.
Football FANATICS beware: You probably will NOT find a [your favorite sports team logo]-theme toilet seat/lid/cover for an elongated bowl. Live with it. The elongated bowl is worth the SACRIFICE!
My toilets do their thing in one flush. They work so well, I may take them with me if/when I move. Heck, they might even appear in my Will!
They are politically incorrect: They use more water.
I was LUCKY as my house was completed JUST BEFORE the low-flow requirement.
However, I do have trouble sleeping because of the guilt I feel over the water I am wasting. After all, we all know that every flush of water disappears off the face of the Earth. Gone forever. It's terrible. I can't stand it...
I just installed an Eljer Titan a few weeks ago. It and the Toto and some American Standard models have a 3" outlet. Even with low water pressure one push and the waste whooses out of there faster than you can blink! Make sure you get a model with the larger outlet!
Dave
of flushing, some don't. Any advice on make and model appreciated.
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