On "Smart" power meters

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Nils Holland wrote:

You can always buy nuclear power from France.
TDD
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Nils Holland wrote:

All of this leads back to the fact that we do not have any good storage technology for electricity. If we had good batteries, electric vehicles would be practical, not just a toy for people who have money to waste and little distance to travel, and we would have the ability to have home power systems that could charge at an even rate and provide for our peak power use locally giving a steady load to the grid.
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The Daring Dufas wrote:

You must live in a strange place.
I'm in Houston and all municipal water is gravity fed - that is, the pressure is determined by the height of the water towers. There is no way for any central location to know directly what the water pressure is anywhere in the city.
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HeyBub wrote:

Birmingham is a very strange place sometimes. Da mayor, La La Larry just got hisself sent away to da federal big house. It's can so entertaining 'round here.
TDD
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The Daring Dufas wrote:

Okay, smartypants, top this: Houston just elected a lesbian as mayor.
Instead of condoms being passed out in schools, they're gonna start giving away dental dams.
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HeyBub wrote:

Well, I've heard that every thing is bigger in Texas. *snicker*
TDD
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HeyBub wrote:

I would think that if they know the pressure at one place, depending on the elevation they should know what it is everywhere. The exception being if there is a large demand in one area and not elsewhere, then they would have a drop in pressure due to restrictions in the pipes.
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Tony wrote:

That could happen. Last year, my power went out. After fussing a bit, I stepped outside. There were FORTY TWO pieces of FIRE EQUIPMENT* in front of my house dealing with an apartment house fire across the street. My neighbor, who was trying to get home, circled the neighborhood looking for a way in. She said that every time she got within about three blocks of the fire, she spotted a pumper hooked up to a fire plug - we guessed wainting for a call for more water.
Anyway, with all that commotion I didn't notice a drop in water pressure. I do have, however, a humongous water tower about two blocks from me (and the apartment house), so I guess if the fire was at the end of the service run, there might be a drop-off.
------- * These 42 pieces of equipment (I counted them) included your ordinary pumpers, a nozzle truck that could reach up to the 47th floor (the apartment house was two stories), a visit-god ladder truck that could reach even higher, supervisor cars, a cascade unit, special operations vans, and a bus-looking vehicle resembling the one that takes seniors to the neighboring Indian Casino for a day of gambling labeled "City of Houston Mobile Command Center." I didn't bother counting the cop cars or ambulances.
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:05:05 +0100, Nils Holland wrote:

I remember my parents used to have their old "electro-mechanical" washer on a timer so it'd come on at night when the rates were lower. Then they replaced it a few years ago with an expensive new all-electronic one - which would just sit there dumbly when the power came on...

That is the downside, yes (my parents' one was in a utility room right at the opposite corner of the house from where they slept)
cheers
Jules
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Jules wrote:

I ran into that with a window A/C unit. During the summer I now leave the window unit on high, but put a timer in series with the temperature sensor.
Maybe you can put a timer in series with the washer lid safety switch?
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:26:06 -0500, Tony wrote:

Ahh, theirs was a front-loader (otherwise that would be a very neat idea!)
There's probably still all sorts of safety switches in there that could be tapped into, but it wouldn't surprise me for a front-loader if the controller's not designed to flag an error condition and just halt if the system detects a door open condition when the machine's "running" (after all at that point it probably thinks the room's flooded :-)
cheers
Jules
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On 12/15/2009 11:31 AM, HeyBub wrote:

Tune in, turn on, drop out.
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:09:08 -0800 (PST), snipped-for-privacy@optonline.net wrote Re Re: On "Smart" power meters:

...and prosperty, while we race to the bottom.
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