I was in Florida this past week and a half for an unhappy event, and we
needed to re-key the locks in my late-mother's house. My sister was
calling a locksmith and I said that I could do it for about 1/10th the
cost, and it would only take me an hour or so to do eight cylinders. I
went to Home Depot to buy lock re-keying kits like I've done many times
in California. I couldn't find them on the shelf and when I asked
someone they told me that they could only sell me one if I was
"licensed." It was too late to have someone send me some kits from
another state so we had to have a locksmith re-key the locks.
Is this very common? Was it even true? Is the locksmith lobby so strong
that they are able to prevent the sale of re-keying kits? What is the
risk in selling such a kit?
High rate of property turnovers from all the snowbirds that die off, and
all the vacation-house repos and walk-aways?
Once the initial round of tradesman visits was over, after I bought this
place, I changed all the locks. Schlage from the big-box. Didn't have
any problem at all getting 3 deadbolts and doorknobs, 6 cylinders all
together, keyed alike. Just look at the little tags on the boxes. Could
have gotten several more matching ones if I had wanted. A little scary
to see how few different keyings they actually use. For a couple hundred
bucks, I could have assembled a key ring that would probably open
multiple houses in any recent subdivision around here.
Not sure if anyone mentioned this but, last I checked, HD will rekey
the locks for you and it's still VERY cheap. It's just sometimes hard
to find an employee who knows how to do it. Just bring the sets in
to the HD.
Caesar Romano wrote:
It is the same thing that you can't buy your own casket for burial in some
states. Or that only licensed tradesmen can apply for certain building
permits in some states.
This is the way things work in this country. A group of people form an
organization and pool their money, then pay off the politicians to pass laws
which benefit their cause.
If you don't like the law, form a group of consumers, gather up plenty of
money, then pay off the politicians to repeal the law.
Should be cheaper at a state level. I read it costs about $165 million to
get a law passed with the federal government. But if you are a big oil
company or a foreign government, that is chump change...
We went to the SmartKey locks by Kwikset. They cost initially, but you can
rekey them in ten seconds. We have rentals, so it makes it very nice to be
Online, you can get anything you want, including pick lock kits, bump key
sets, and just about anything any criminal needs. Of course, you as an
honest consumer, should be able to find what you need.
I would like to see the law on this. Maybe it is a local ordinance?..
I cannot stand an HD associate telling me "this is what you need",
when I know it is wrong.
Walk in one day and say:
I need to break a door down, really fast.
HD: Sure this 12 lb sledge hammer will work. It even has a Hickory
I'm with you. Locks aren't rocket surgery. And if you can't get it from
the HD guy, who is obviously clueless, you can get it in a few days online.
Any real pro key guy wouldn't be asking questions here. He'd already be in
In Alabama there were so many trunk slammer alarm companies that
consumers started screaming to the government to do something,
so they did. One good thing the state finally did was to make
one state license good for the whole state instead of the state
certified dealer having to get an alarm company license for every
little town and city. This according to my memory of conversations
with friend who is in the business now, I got out of it 25 years
ago because of all the hassle and time commitment. Alarm techs
often get called out in the wee hours to fix something a giant 2
legged rat broke.
A few years back, I went to HD in Wyoming to get some 1/2" PEX (~40ft) and
the connections to add a hose bibb to a friends home.
Where I'm from, HD has all the fittings AND will rent you the "crimper" for
The staff at HD said that PEX wasn't approved for sale in WY and that they
doubted whether I could find any in Cheyenne.
It isn't practical or sensible. First, it's very expensive, second, you
can't buy eight keyed-alike locks from Home Depot or any other hardware
store (you can order on-line). We just needed to secure the house from
all the people that had been given keys over the years, not change the
lock fixtures for any other reason.
Home Depot will re-key the locks for $5 each which isn't bad, though
it's about 3x the cost of doing it yourself and you have to remove all
the locks and take them into the store. I would have done this if I had
had time, but I had to return home so my sister had a locksmith come do it.
It was actually pretty funny when I got the quotes. One wanted $60 for a
service call plus $10 per cylinder. One wanted $25 per cylinder with no
charge for the service call.
Since there were eight cylinders we opted for the one with the service
call charge. The second locksmith kept calling us back arguing about the
cost (next time use caller-ID blocking!), insisting that the fact that
he didn't charge for a service call made him cheaper, claiming that no
one could do the job for only $10 per cylinder, and warning us to use a
qualified company (which is why we went with the one that's been around
for 50 years).
First, condolences on your loss.
Would you have been able to buy complete replacement locks? That's
what I usually do anyway.
Look at KwikSet SmartKey locks before you buy anything. I'm not usually
impressed by anything at HD, but these and the SharkBite copper tubing
connectors are the cat's meow.
Aren't Kwikset locks basically just "keep honest people honest"
locks? I've heard that they're pretty easy to defeat. They certainly
*feel* less sturdy than Schlage or Medeco, although that's obviously
subjective and not really worth anything at all when evaluating...
Most all locks are just to keep honest people honest. A good kick will open
many doors. Then the windows are not all that secure.
The main things to look for in a door lock is how well they will hold up
over the years and what they look like.
So, you basically have nothing to add to the conversation, no solutions, or
no anecdotal references. But just use this as another opportunity to post
your trolling sig line?
Learn the truth
or try this one:
Sorry, pal. You are the one who keeps posting this crap.
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