I am looking for recommendations on some flat latex to paint the
interior of a couple of rental houses I own . I really don't want to
use the thin bottom of the line "contractor grade" stuff ( sold 5 gal
/ $35 ) but something in the 5ga/$60 range . Any recommendations on
brands . I would prefer the superstores like HD , Lowes, even Walmart
because of convenience but would go to Sherwin Wms or Porter Paints
if the paint was superior quality for the same price . - Suggestions
sheetrock room... one coat after the other.... the paint was like water
and just went into the sheetrock... after painting it four time, this
one wall... i went to sherwin williams and got some paint and it worked
great first time... i told this to other who say they used glidden and
never had any problems, but if i paint i use the sherwinn williams
paints they work great for me.. my time is worth more than the extra
money you pay for quality materials.....
I went over my friends the other day and they were repainting and using some
big box store "premium" paint. She said that it was starting to look good
after 2 coats! What a waste of time.
I remodeled a place a few years ago and some people thought that the
Sherwin-Williams drywall primer was the finish coat because it covered so
By the way - and no offense jim - but whenever you hear advice like this,
it's completely worthless. There is no such thing as "brand name" paint.
By that I mean there is no such thing as "Sherwin Williams" paint. There
are only specific LINES of Sherwin Williams paint. They make cheap paint
and they make great paint. Glidden also makes good paint, but that is not
the type of Glidden paint jim used. (Glidden is also part of ICI Dulux, and
they make a good paint - can't recall the name right now - Ultra something.)
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 01:32:23 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I normally like to go to Sherwin Williams. I like their Classic 99
just as well as their premium line (forget the name) and it saves a
few bucks too. The biggest problem I have with SW is their hours.
The one near me closes at 5PM on weekdays. If I can't make it over
there in time after work I have to wait another day without painting.
They use to be closed on Sundays too but recently started opening for
just a few hours.
That said, I'm in the middle of painting many rooms in my house right
now. A friend at work told me he recently used paint from Lowe's and
like it. I decided to give it a try since the Sherwin Williams hours
are killing me. I have to say that so far I'm quite pleased with the
quality of the paint at Lowe's. It's thick and seems to cover about
the same as the SW Classic 99. I plan to continue buying there for
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 01:32:23 GMT, email@example.com wrote:
Frazee. Our last three houses have been painted with Frazee paint at
construction, both inside and out, and we've had very good luck with
both touching up and repainting. One house is over fifteen years old
and the other two are in a tract with the oldest houses being about a
dozen years old and they're all painted with Frazee.
I like the paint a lot. Single coat covers, which is nice in a
rental, which one of these is. It washes well, too, which extends the
time between painting. Goes on well, too.
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer
Ditto on the Sherwin Williams....in the last year I remodeled a house,
added an addition and painted ALL interior rooms with their interior
latex "super paint". They also have the best damn primer I have ever
used, Prime-rite 200. When painting new, primered drywall however,
I'd recommend 2 coats, but have found one coat will do it when
re-painting on simular shades. New drywall will soak up any paint.
ALSO -- make sure you ask to have "an account setup" to receive an
additional 10% off, even on sale items! You do not have to be a
business, they will still open an account for you. Then, you'll get
10% off of any purchase anytime (paint, supplies, and sale items as
well). I try to avoid HD as much as possible, but you're right,
between their business hours and return policies, sometimes it's the
Finally, I recommend using semi-gloss on the walls....it's much easier
to clean. Flat paint works great on ceilings, plus will hide
drywall/plaster seam flaws.
Hope this helps!
Excellent advice. I forgot to mention that. If you go in looking like a
painter and ordering 5 gallon jugs, they will often give you more if you act
like a painter too. Talk about what your "customer" wants (so what if it's
your wife?) I eventually got up to 30% off.
Oh no - way too shiny. Use a satin or eggshell sheen if you like for
cleaning. Sherwin Williams also makes an easy clean flat, but it's
Use Pratt and Lambert Accolade. The per gallon price is expensive but
it covers most everything in one coat so it ends up being very cost
Benjamin Moore comes pretty close.
The premium line from Miller is also pretty good.
firstname.lastname@example.org wrote in message
I have had really good results with Sherwin-Williams both in my house and
rental properties I own. Behr used to be good paint years ago before it
became HDs flagship paint. The best quality Behr paint you can buy at HD is
not even close to the quality of Sherwin-Williams.
As I said in an earlier post, there is no such thing as "Sherwin Williams"
paint. For example, most of the stuff Behr makes is going to be better than
SW StylePerfect. Even the pamphlets at the SW store will tell you that.
For example, they rate it 1 star out of 5 in coverage, cleanability,
splatter resistance, etc. Do NOT shop by brand, and especially do not
spread anecdotes about painting with a mere brand name.
You can get a 'Consumers Report' article on paint. My local library has the
magazine in the reference section. Seems the last I looked, CR liked the
paint at Lowe's called Valspar American Traditions. That was a few years
ago - don't know if they've done an update since.
You're probably right to avoid the cheapest stuff, but in my opinion, buying
the next level up is an even worse mistake.
There are exceptions. For example, if you're going to be painting very very
close to the same color over, you should be fine. Otherwise, you're going
to need 2 coats. You will need 2 coats with cheap paint, and you'll need 2
coats with mid grade paint. What have you saved? Maybe a bit of spatter,
but you've lost money.
Now compare that with the time and cost involved with a premium paint. How
much is your time worth to you? It will cost twice as much, but it *will*
go on in one coat (except for extreme colors, Sherwin Williams SuperPaint
will, and to a certain extent their ProMar 200 and 400 will too.) This is
super high covering paint. Other companies probably have similar products
(maybe PlastiKote by Duron, etc.) I have never regretted paying this extra
amount to cut my work time in half - and that includes when I was painting
professionally for awhile (*especially* then, when every penny counted.)
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