It's has nothing to do with picking the right real estate agent. As
I said, to get advice on a heating system from a real estate agent is
like going to an auto mechanic for a tooth ache. A real estate agent
isn't qualifed to give opinions of heating systems.
And if that isn't bad enough, most people don't understand that unless
you have a buyers agent, who's supposed to be specifically working for
you, the real estate agent is actually working for the seller. And
even if you have a buyers agent; that agent is typically getting paid
from the commission when the house is sold. That is an inherent
conflict of interest.
On Mon, 19 May 2008 11:15:31 -0700 (PDT), email@example.com wrote:
Real estate agents need to be reasonably well versed in all home
mechanicals and code related issues because that's an important aspect
of their job. Can they take apart a burner head and clean it or
diagnose a faulty control board? Not likely, but based on their
training and professional experience they're in a better position than
most to judge whether a furnace or boiler has been well maintained, is
energy efficient and in good working order.
My real estate agent is paid a commission upon the closing of the sale
and my lawyer and mortgage broker get their cut as well. She has been
rather candid in her advice and understands that by protecting my
interests she's also furthering her own. I trust and respect her
judgment because she's repeatedly demonstrated her worth; it's as
simple as that.
Absolute nonsense. Show me a reference where any of that is included
in real estate training courses or licensing exams. The typical real
estate agent is a housewife who has zippo experience or training in
home mechanicals or code related issues.
Additionally, for them to get involved in giving opinions on any of
that is likely precluded by professional ethics and legal issues. If
you owned a realty agency, would you want your employees giving
opinions on heating systems and structural issues that could get
Can they take apart a burner head and clean it or
Show us a reference where real estate agents receive training in how
to determine whether a furnace is well maintained or not. Most are
lucky if they can get the type of HVAC right on the listing.
You can trust her all you want. But there is an inherrent conflict
of interest. If you're getting paid on a commission, you only get
paid if the deal closes. Faced with the prospect of convincing you
that the property is worth an additional $5K to meet the sellers price
and get the deal done and be paid or tell you it's not worth the extra
$5K and starting over, clearly there is motive for the real estate
agent to be less than candid.
On Tue, 20 May 2008 06:05:14 -0700 (PDT), firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I refer you to Chapter 16 of:
I refer you to Chapters 1, 2, 5, 6 and 7 of:
A direct quote from another branch of this very same thread:
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"The right real estate agent can save you a bundle. We had a great
agent that pointed out every flaw that she saw in houses that we
looked at. Yes, she was acting as our agent and was going to be paid
out of the price of the house. She saved us a lot of inspection fees
for inspections of houses that "looked ok" to us but not ok to her.
We ended up buying a house of lower price but better suited to us."
"She was quite knowledgeable about the heating and electrical systems
that we saw in our search for a house. Her estimates for changing
furnaces, roofs and electrical upgrades were pretty well on the money
for the area that we were looking at. (We made some enquiries
The right real estate agent can save you a bundle. We had a great agent that
pointed out every flaw that she saw in houses that we looked at. Yes, she
was acting as our agent and was going to be paid out of the price of the
house. She saved us a lot of inspection fees for inspections of houses that
"looked ok" to us but not ok to her. We ended up buying a house of lower
price but better suited to us.
She was quite knowledgeable about the heating and electrical systems that we
saw in our search for a house. Her estimates for changing furnaces, roofs
and electrical upgrades were pretty well on the money for the area that we
were looking at. (We made some enquiries ourselves)
First of all, good post and good questions. I wish the so-called
"experts" here had as much apparent good sense as you seem to have.
I'll just answer this one question. Unless you're thinking of something
completely different, radiators are the ideal local heating device since
each one can be turned on or off by means of the inlet valve. (You must
make sure, of course, that these valves are working, and may need to
replace some.) You simply turn off the radiators in unused spaces.
In general, it seems to me that if you could convert that oil-fired
boiler to natural gas, you'd have the ideal combination (gas instead of
dirty oil + radiant heat).
Don't forget insulating the house ...
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute
conversation with the average voter.
oil burners can clog pretty easy, gas almost never does
oil often requires more regular service than gas
with enough tanks oil can be bought in advance at lower cost time,
like early summer , gas you cant.
my inlawys home has electric baseboard heat, and a totally seperate
oil forced air furnace, no doubt installed by a previous owner to save
money.he nome is also very well insulated.
the OP question is gone, but i wiill add oil tanks rust from the
so the exterior can look perfect while the inside is swiss cheese.....
get some HVAC contractors to visit with free estimates.........
if you need AC then a forced air upgrade might be best
That's certainly been my experience as well. I expect things will
improve considerably if and when we reduce the sulphur content. I've
read that ultra low sulphur fuels are vastly better in this regards.
Having to clean any machine that works as hard as a boiler is no indication that
oil is somehow "dirty". If that's at all meaningful, then I guess we have to
weigh it against the far more serious problem of gas explosions. That REALLY
makes a mess... and kills whole families.
On Mon, 19 May 2008 09:58:56 -0700, David Nebenzahl
Yes, and compared to an annual cleaning, it's such a silly, trivial,
The gas industry has spread the idiocy about oil being somehow
"dirty", when in fact, the homeowner will never encounter any such
"dirt". The propaganda tries to fool folks into thinking it will make
their homes dirty or smelly. That's complete bullshit.
No, I am not an oil dealer. You, however sound like a snake oil
"QED"?? Oh grow up.
Any crazy thing can be asserted, with the demand that everyone scramble to
disprove it. Therefore, it's up to YOU as the person who made the assertion to
provide the evidence.
It's a basic rule of discourse.
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