I finally got around to dealing with an area, approx 3 ft
circumference, under one of the water faucets,
where the hose lies coiled (when it isn't sprawling over
the lawn <g>).
I've tried various ground covers, but weeds seem to take over.
So I poured a couple of sacks of pebbles in the area; looks
nice and neat. However, weeds starting to poke through.
I guess I could p.u.another couple of sacks of pebbles...but wondered
1. Pouring hot water over the pebbles would kill the weeds, but would
it hurt the Princess Plant that grows in the middle of the area.
2. Roundup, same concerns vis-a-vis the Princess Plant.
Your wisdom, please?
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:59:33 -0700, Persephone wrote:
Do Not Use Poison.
Poison Make People Sick, Maybe Die.
Poison Hurt Developing Babies.
Do Not Use Poison.
Do Not Use Monsanto.
Monsanto Make People Sick, Maybe Die.
Monsanto Hurt Developing Babies.
Do Not Use Monsanto.
Pull the g-damn weeds.
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:22:43 -0500, Charlie wrote:
If you buy your food from the grocery store I wouldn't worry
too much about the pittance of Roundup any of us might use.
Typical notill farming for corn, soybeans and now they have
Roundup ready wheat seed too. Spray whole field with Roundup
and either plant at the same time or wait a few days. After
your desired crop is on the way up and the weeds are taking
hold spray whole field with Roundup again. The seed/crop has
been genetically engineered so it is virtually immune to
There are hundreds of acres with in easy walking distance
from me that have been douched with Roundup for many years
I've seen/read studies showing that low levels of Glyphosate
(Roundup's active ingredient) can be detected in just about
everything we eat/buy made from corn, soybeans and wheat.
Use it judicially, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over what
we might do with it. Worry about the thousands and thousands
of acres douched with it by agriculture...
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:30:58 -0500, Charlie wrote:
As you probably already know, DDT is still in widespread use
throughout the rest of the World. It did and still does work
really, really well for what it was intended (shrug). It was
way, way overused and abused.
I'm guilty of using Glyphosate. In some places it seems to
be the lesser of evils. I try to avoid it in places that I
plan on eating crops from.
Which do you suppose is more harmful. Spraying a bit of
Glyphosate a few times a summer or running a noisy/smelly
exhaust spewing weed-whacker every week. I hate those
machines (and leave blowers) and only use them when I
absolutely have to. Much rather do the trimming and weeding
all by hand, but a bit of Glyphosate here and there can be a
big help. It is about the only thing that I have found that
can take out Grapevines, Poison Ivy and Autumn Olives short
of a small nuclear device :)
I guess if we live long enough we will find out eventually
one way or the other just how bad it is.
I think we already know, Leon. ;-)
I just hate adding to the load that my grandkids will suffer. Scares
the bejeebers outta me and nearly makes me physically ill when I run
the possibilities and see what they may have to deal with.
Hell, I'm not guilt free by any means. I angst over the fact that I
contribute/contributed to this mess, and that my generation was on a
roll, butt we let them whoop our butts and most of us sold out, or got
tired and simply gave up the fight.
I'm gettin' my second wind, friend and I still "teach my children well"
and the grands. They are paying attention, so I take solice that I
have passed the torch.... when I pass.
Care and Peace, and keep the RWS clean!
Any long term studies by an independent group on cattle, swine, goats,
chickens eating such tainted feed or photosynthetic organism with
glysophate, including their offspring, their grand offspring etc.? If
financed by Monsanto, the results are mute.
MOOT - A term used in the inns of court, signifying the exercise of
arguing imaginary cases, which young barristers and students used to
perform at certain times, the better to be enabled by this practice to
defend their clients' cases. A moot question is one which has not been
So what did you really mean? That they are not valid? Or?
(Sorry...I can't help myself...)
I have a hard time just finding stuff that I know I have
read about before. Most of the studies that seem to have any
merit come from over the pond in European Countries. There
rules are much stricter than here.
We (humans) will probably be the ultimate test in the USA.
Big Ag and Pharmaceuticals have our government
leaders/enforcers in their back pocket...
Global, indeed. On another front, Monster-santo has been screwing
poor farmers in Third World countries for decades. They sell them
hybrid seed so farmers will have to buy new seed every year instead of
taking their own seed and replanting, as farmers have done for
millennia. No doubt M cuts deals with local dictators/oligarchs.
Monsanto also acquires the "water rights" in poor countries and makes
people who used to draw from their own springs and wells BUY Monsanto
water, when they can barely eat and send their children to school.
See Mother Jones article a few years back.
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