I'm gonna float around a while and check out some of the topics.
Remind me where to post some pics . . . it's been a while! :-)
Many of the "old" regulars are gone, time, spam, and other assorted BS
chased many people off. This place ain't what it used to be a few years ago!
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:46:36 -0700 (PDT), email@example.com
All those responses and nobody answered your question???
The miter angle is 22.5 degrees independent of diameter.
Assuming the measured "diameter" is the distance from side to side
across the center of an octagon, the length of the outside edge of the
Length =tan(22.5) X "diameter" = 0.414 X "diameter"
Assuming the "diameter" is the distance from corner to corner across
the center of an octagon, the length of an outside edge is:
Length = tan(22.5) X "diameter" = 0.383 X "diameter"
Not sure what your customer wants?? <G>
Before you/they decide what, check out longleaf pine and mesquite. neither
is cheap, longleaf around here, Tx Hill Country, starts at $5bft, select $9.
Mesquite starts at $10. I like mesquite. That should give the SW flavor.
You do NOT want SYP. It is hard and heavy but is also very resinous and
rather coarse and unattractive. The resin is NP with cutting tools but it
is a PITA with stationary sanders.
Fir - Douglas fir - isn't all that soft. In fact, it is pretty hard. I
doubt it would give the look your customer wants though; for that, I'd
suggest either ponderosa pine (a western wood) or eastern white pine. Maybe
lodgepole pine (another western wood).
Some info on western woods...
Sources for EWP. Both are reliable.
Here's a link to a page of general characteristics of many species of woods
including soft woods. Watch for wrap.
Nice resource. The full document, all chapters and frontal matter, is at
http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/fplgtr/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.pdf . The parent
directory is FTP searchable, and contains the individual chapters.
There is such a thing as "furniture grade" SYP but it
is very hard to come by. Most of the good stuff is shipped
over to europe, where them boys are wild about our pine.
Here is at least one source that I'm aware of:
Be aware that that SYP is the hardest soft wood you
have ever used. It will splinter and chip unless you
are using very sharp blades.
It will also leave the most pleasant odor ever left
in shop after some sawing.
You will want "ONLY" kiln dried furniture grade
SYP. Do not attempt to use any syp from an unknown
source. SYP will punish you with some of the most
amazing movement seen since Elvis.
Finishing can be a real challenge but I'll leave that
to Robert and Barry and others who really know how to
I like working with clear white pine when I can get it. it is very
warp resistant and resists splintering. No knots. Straight grain.
Almost like Sitka spruce. Also quite light.
But it DOES ding easily and does not wear well.
Makes good door frames (jambs) and windoe sash.
But try to find the stuff anymore!! At ANY price (and it IS expensive
when you can find it here in Ontario)
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