slight OT: truck hauling capacity

[Dave Hinz]

I assure you, that's not my original term by any means, but it seemed especially appropriate in this case.

[Philip Hallstrom]

Might be true for trucks, but those sedans can carry quite a bit if tied down right!

[mac davis]

well, you have maybe a "half ton" load rating... but probably a 5,000 to 7,000 max tow weight... I'd borrow or rent a trailer... YMMV

mac

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[mac davis]

hey! I resemble that remark!!

mac

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[tom_murphy]

That's a reference to the Book of Armaments, is it not?

" I soiled my armour I was so scared..."

Tom

[Dave Hinz]

Well spotted, noble sir.

[Dave Hall]

Find a friend with a boat and try to schedule use on a day he will be out boating. Even a relatively small boat trailer will have a 3,000 lb rating. I have hualed several 30' or longer telephone poles on mine with little problem although at that length you tend to have negative tongue weight - not a good thing. With 8' to 10' logs that should not be an issue.

Dave Hall

[Tim Douglass]

Every Fall there are numerous 1/2 ton P/U around here sitting on the side of the road loaded with a cord and half of green wood and a broken axle. "If it fits - I can haul it" seems to be the prevailing philosophy.

-- "We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"

Tim Douglass

[Mark and Kim Smith]

Ni!

[Patrick Conroy]

Dave Hinz wrote in news: [e-mail]:

A Reading from the Book of Armaments, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20:

Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."

[John McCoy]

"George E. Cawthon" wrote in news:KtMpe.918243$ [e-mail]:

You are quite correct. The Ford F150, for instance, has at least

6 different weight ratings, depending on whether it's 2 or 4 wheel drive, std or extended cab, short or long bed (the 4x4 extended cab having the lowest rating). All of those, of course, are "half-ton" models. (mine is rated 1700lbs, incidently, which is pretty generous for a "half ton").

To the OP: Edmunds.com gives specs for almost everything...look in their used car section and you can find at least the last 5 years worth of models.

Being that your's is a "small pickup" and not a "half-ton", you'll probably find the payload to be around 900 lbs. You _should_ subtract your weight from that to find what you can put in the bed, altho for a short haul you can ignore that.

John

[Dave Hinz]

Yes, well, sorry, I have a cold.

[Odinn]

On 6/9/2005 2:53 PM Tim Douglass mumbled something about the following:

You wouldn't happen to live in Georgia, now, would you? :)

[Ba r r y]

Actually "small" pickups like Fronties and Tacomas usually can deal with quite a bit more than 900 pounds.

The '04 V6 Frontier King Cab 4x4 capacity is 1164 according to Edmunds.

The same site lists an '04 Taco V6 4x4 extra cab capacity as over

1500. My '05 V6 4x4 Access Cab is spec'd at 1400.

Barry

[George E. Cawthon]

OOPs. I missed your point!

[John]

Isn't it amazing how amazed some people are by such simple back-of-the-envelope math?

Only thing I'd caution him on is that the density given is for dry wood. Wet, as the logs will be, it'll be much heavier. So one log at a time may be his max.

Overloading a truck can have some surprising consequences. I remember putting 16 or 18 bags of concrete mix in the back or my 88" wheelbase Land Rover once, and discovering as we left the lumberyard that it would hardly steer. We quickly draped about four of those bags on the hood instead, and got home OK.

John Martin

[Dave Hinz]

Yes. Also amazing is when someone will do it, muff it badly, and pronounce that Oak weighs 300 pounds per square inch, without applying the sanity check. I was mentally hefting chunks of firewood while mentally checking my figures, before posting them. Because this is Usenet, after all, and if I got it wrong I'd be called on it ;)

Right; the book doesn't specify wet or dry. Even still the moisture content between green and dry hardwood probably doesn't change the weight by more than 30-40% at most, I would think?

Yup, that's why I suggest one at a time rather than two.

Well, this makes...eight John Martins who I have met. You're just behind John Olsen/Olson.

[Patriarch]

Tim Douglass wrote in news: [e-mail]:

My youngest son blew a head gasket helping a friend bring home a load of green oak firewood that way, several years back.

$1400 for a load of 'free wood', that someone else got to burn. Some lessons are more expensive than others.

Thinking about it, that was the same trip where they had my new truck too, and managed to back over a steel landscape spike, and tear up an expensive tire...

To the OP: Rent a trailer. Preferably one that has a power dump feature.

Patriarch

[mac davis]

yeah... same mind set as " it must be ok to write checks, there are lots of them left in the checkbook"..

The first trip we took to the forest for turning wood last month, my wife wanted to keep loading the truck but I chickened out... We had a LOT of 10" to 14" rounds, maybe 2" long, stacked pretty well in the bed... it didn't LOOK like that much, but estimating the average weight (which felt heavier each time I put one on the truck) I figured that we had at least

800 pounds of wet wood loaded, even though there was room for about 6 more rounds..

I kept thinking about the long down grade on the way home and the turns on it... pictures of light front end, blowing out rear tire, etc... it just isn't worth risking lives or equipment..

mac

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[John]

Could be even a bit more than that 30-40%. I think that green walnut can be 80% or so moisture content, which is based on the oven dry weight. I'm guessing your 38 pound figure is based on 10% moisture or thereabouts, so oven dry would be 34, and 80% moisture would add 27 pounds to that.

Eight, huh? You're my first Dave Hinz, but I guess that doesn't come as much of a surprise.

John Martin