OK I know this has been discussed before, but I'm wondering if there is any new information out there as I've had it with my old saw and am ready to move up.. From what I can google on the subject, Shop Fox is the retail name for Grizzly and the machines themselves are identical. However, in talking with the guys at
The two saws in question are these: Grizzly 1023SL
Now the Utter Guys say that the ShopFox unit weighs nearly 500 pounds, while the Grizzly is under 400 (*shipping* weight of 467). They account for the weight differences in heavier duty hand wheels and heavier duty trunions, which would have to be close to 100 pounds. The cast iron table and extensions are identical in size and weight.
The problem I have with these claims is this.... I've seen the Grizzly trunions and there is nothing hollow or lightweight about them, and I frankly don't see the room in there for anything significantly beefier. So how can you get to 100 pounds via larger hand wheels and trunions? Is this a case of deceptive advertising (i.e. the "nearly 500 pounds" claim actually referring to shipping weight?)? Thoughts?
Would love to hear input before making the purchase. I might consider spending an extra $200 if the trunions are indeed vastly stronger and heavier. Anyone with the W1677 actualy *know* the real machine weight?
Thanks.
Brian.