I just bought a sheet of teak plywood. It is made for cabin soles in
boats and has strips of holly (probably maple) running the length of
the sheet at approximately 1 5/8" intervals. I need to but up against
a sheet I had bought last year. Well, not only was it 3/32 thinner
but the face teak ply could only be measured in microns it was so
thin. I brushed it off with a soft brush (afraid a stiff brush would
puncture the ply) and immediately coated with West System 105/207 so
that the veneer could be handled. Its cost (not including the epoxy I
had to apply) $149.00. If I ever put another cabin sole in a boat I
will use solid 1/4 teak with maple strips. I believe manufacturers
are making the final veneer so thin that woodworkers are realizing
that it is all but unusable. Wholesalers contribute to this situation
by purchasing this shit but they all seem to focus on maximum profit.
Even the quality suppliers often can not resist real cheap shit when
it is offered to them. If they can buy it for $10 less a sheet and
cut the price $5 a sheet they still come out ahead.
I am coming to agree more and more with the poster (who name does not
immediately come to me) who says that "It's time to throw the tea in
the water again." Or words to that effect.
I've noticed this only the past two or three years with some long time
suppliers, only they don't cut the price.
I think it's a desperate attempt to stay in business after years of using an
old business model that's worked since the "Industrial Age", but no is no
longer guaranteed to do so in the "Me/TV Age": "Give the customer quality
The two major suppliers of hardwood in North Carolina
do a "booming" business in exporting. They been doing it
for several years now.
Send out the good hardwood in containers and get a container
of cheap furniture in return, which explains the condition
of the furniture industry in North Carolina.
We can't buy a single piece of #1 SYP and we live in the
tarheel state ??? I asked a manager at a huge plant what
they did with all the good stuff... It is all exported.
I've only ever used melamine and masonite from HD. Both were OK. When I was
building the bed for our bedroom, I needed to build 12 drawers 18Wx24Lx8D. I
looked at the plywood that HD had and it looked and felt like junk. I
decided to try Lowe's (not much better) and went back to get melamine. The
local yard is closed on the weekend so either I have to plan or get it at
I have noticed also the selection of other plywoods has disappeared. A
goodly number of years ago, one could purchase firply in a number of
thicknesses and finishes. I personally still have some remnants in my scrap
bin of 1/4", 5/16", 3/8", 1/2", 5/8" and 3/4" firply. It used to be
available in sanded, unsanded, and thicker sheets in tongue & groove for
flooring. Now at the BORG and the few remaining lumber yards in sanded
undersized 1/4", 1/2" and 3/4", and they consider this a full selection.
The "real" plywood suppliers still have a vast array of options to drool
over. When I was in CT I used to get my good plywood from Atlantic
Plywood in South Windsor. They are only wholesale, but you can place
your order at the building supply place a few miles down rt 5 and then
go pickup your order up the street. The building supply place doesn't
have real good info on what they have at Atlantic so it's best to make a
trip up to Atlantic to get the listing of what they actually have and if
you can take a walk through their warehouse.
> I have noticed also the selection of other plywoods has disappeared. A
> goodly number of years ago, one could purchase firply in a number of
> thicknesses and finishes. I personally still have some remnants in
> bin of 1/4", 5/16", 3/8", 1/2", 5/8" and 3/4" firply. It used to be
> available in sanded, unsanded, and thicker sheets in tongue &
> flooring. Now at the BORG and the few remaining lumber yards in sanded
> undersized 1/4", 1/2" and 3/4", and they consider this a full
Ever hear of the 80/20 rule?
A statistical rule as follows;
80% of your sales come from 20% of your customers.
80% of your sales come from 20% of your products.
80% of your profits come from 20% of your sales.
80% of your problems come from 20% of your customers.
The list goes on, but you get the idea.
With the advent of the large scale use of computers, it it possible to
not only minimize the amount of inventory to maximize profits, but
also minimize the number of people working at any time to minimize costs.
That's why you won't find high end and/or very smsll/lsrge size
clothing at your friendly department store.
Also clothing and shoes are ordered and supplied by the manufacturer in
"lots" of all the sizes they want to sell with only one item of the extreme
sizes and gradually more of average size, if you ask them to order a pair of
size 13 shoes, they have to pay extra for it and pay the shipping for one
pair which makes it totally uneconomical to place that order.
I think the undersizing is due to the fact that the manufacturers are
manufacturing the material to metric sizings not imperial. So there
isn't any true 1/4" 3/8", 1/2", 5/8" or 3/4" plywood made any more.
I am also amazed when I go to the order desk at other non HD stores
(Home Hardware here in Canada) to purchase plywood and they ask if I
want VC or PC core. In my mind PC core is not plywood it is particle
board with a veneer on it.
They are total crap.. I bought some about 2 years ago and it had some
red stuff that showed through the veneer.
They used to sell good oak plyood in the 90's.. but it's degraded to
the point of being unusable now.
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