What's your favorite online place to buy wood screw assortment packs?
By the way. Are self tapping screw heads any good? Mainly curious.
I'll probably buy some of those drill bits that make room for the
screw head. Sorry, don't know the terminology.
I usually buy screws at the hardware store. If I know I'll need a lot,
I'll buy a lot. I rarely buy assortment packs, as I usually don't need
10-1/2" screws, 4-5/8", 20-3/4" screws, etc.
Self-tapping screw heads usually work ok. If you're working anywhere
near the edge of a piece of wood, though, you should predrill for the
screw. With the cost of screw guns (and drills) it's worth buying a
second one to dedicate to drilling. It's much easier to switch between
drills than it is to switch between bits.
The drill bits that make room for the screw head are called
"countersinks" or "countersunk". You can get them alone, or at the end
of a drill bit. (You can even use a drill bit to countersink a screw
head, but it's not always easy to do accurately.)
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Yup, got a Panasonic 12 V drill and impact driver during that
outrageous deal on Amazon last month.
The impact driver is noisy as expected, and it's a little unusual to
use, but it drove ordinary slotted screws without stripping or
slipping off of the head.
With me, it's better than nothing, but tedious and inconsistent.
Enjoyed your writing about countersinks, thanks.
I've found the assortment packs from Rockler to be very good quality
screws, and actually to be cheaper than buying the individual 100-
These "Square-X" screws will drive with either a phillips (everyone
has one) or a square drive (works much better) bit. This combo pack
is only available online. Rockler are the only tapered head wood
screws I use now - don't bother with wood screws from Home Depot -
they're awful. One time I thought I'd save time by getting screws
there, and I twisted several heads off #10 screws. Waste of time and
money. And I haven't tried them, but McFeeley's wood screws are
supposed to be top of the line. They have combo packs also.
As far as countersinking, I have two suggestions: First, the Dewalt
tapered countersink bits (DW2567, DW2568) are the best ones I've tried
(better than Fuller or off-brands). These are available at Amazon and
my local TrueValue. Sometimes they go on sale at Amazon for about
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Second, If you want a separate countersink bit, which is sometimes
handy, I've found this type by Lee Valley to work very well. Easy to
use, cuts cleanly.
I just got one of these a couple weeks ago, and it's already earned a
permanent spot within easy reach by my bench. The Weldon brand
version of these countersinks is supposed to be top notch.
Hope this helps,
Voice of experience: Do NOT to trust Rockler screws for critical work, like
screwing adjacent cabinet face frames together!
Rockler screws are barely a cut above those you buy at the Borg's and, while
OK for many shop tasks, they simply will not perform like a quality screw.
It's pretty simple in this age of corporate greed ... if you need a wood
screw you can rely on, McFeely's is a good way to go.
Yes, you could argue that.
But I submit that quality is often not even available locally and in many
venues. If corporate greed was not a factor, this would not be the case.
However you look at it, a lot of scumbags make decisions that make it harder
for the rest of us.
And I don't want to hear the pure economic model crap either. If mega corps
really gave a damn about us, quality products would be available right along
the low priced consumer crap. You know the bastards are winning when you
can't even buy good fasteners locally.
Quality products are readily available. You just have to find them and
be willing to pay the price.
For fasteners, most cities of any size have several suppliers who deal
in nothing but fasteners and the tools to install them, and those
suppliers can get you just about anything that you want. But they are
not "home centers" or mom-and-pop hardware stores.
Now, how does "corporate greed" result in local businesses choosing not
to stock what you consider to be "good fasteners"? Is it your
contention that the decision is the result of lack of availability? If
so, then planes should be falling out of the sky every day due to
That lack of availability driving the price sky high.
Nope. Big companies that make planes can get whatever they want. It's
like Windows. Ordinary consumers are stuck under Microsoft's thumb,
but Window's dominance was stopped before it reached the corporate
server market level.
Yes, there were alternatives. But some of the ways that the pricing was
set, buyers, even of just main boards, still ended up paying for a copy of
Many things have changed. But not all.
The SCO lawsuit seems to be suicide by lawyer--they were hoping IBM
would cave and give them a big settlement and it appears that IBM has
decided to hammer them into the ground instead.
As for Microsoft "rumbling", OIN is rumbling back, and it appears that
OIN can hurt Microsoft worse than Microsoft can hurt Linux.
Or maybe the cost of producing fasteners at the quality level you demand
is what drives the price?
Which means that the fasteners _are_ available. Or are you now claiming
some global conspiracy in which the aircraft manufacturers are in
cahoots with the fastener manufacturers to prevent anybody but aircraft
manufacturers from obtaining the fasteners that the aircraft
You mean that Linux ceased to exist? I must have missed another memo.
I'm sorry, but nobody is forcing you to use Windows. If you can't find
an alternative, it's because you aren't looking very hard, same as for
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