TOT indoor solar

They seem to have forgotten that a sail is an aerofoil and not just a wind catcher.

Chuck the sail, just use the fan - much more efficient.

Then it'll just go backwards.

Of course, but that's the government's intention.

Forgotten? That's flattery.

Someone I know was crowing on about their full hybrid car and how there was no (fuel) cost in running it when below (I can't remember the exact figure) 40mph because the electric motor cut in.

Additionally going on about how it didn't attract ULEZ charges. Well, neither does my 2011 1.8 Petrol Ford Focus but not much point in trying to put the record straight.

Not helped by Toyota advertising their non-plugin models as 'self-charging hybrids that you don't need to plug in'. So, err, where is the energy coming from to 'charge' it? Oh, you mean it's just a petrol car with a slightly more efficient transmission?

See also the ads for an 'electrified driving experience' when it's just a petrol car with a hybrid system stuffed in it.

At least with solar on a car roof you can add a few EV miles a day which is not nothing, especially if you live somewhere sunnier than the UK. It's also handy in keeping things topped up if you don't use the car very much - runs the alarm, etc. The more efficient the car is, the more range you get from solar charging.

Theo

All I know is that the car of choice for Uber drivers round here (well over half that I have taken) is a Prius.

And taxis round here tend to be Toyota Auris hybrid. Which gets you a very decent mileage around town.

TBH a hybrid cars makes a lot of sense for people who live in towns and suburbia. Short journeys and a lot of stop start.

My supermakert run is a round trip of 25 miles though.

I would expect that even on a summers day you would at best get 5kWh out of a 'sun roof'

That really isn't very much.

And in winter the square root of sweet fanny adams - which is much less.

How susceptible are solar panels to vibration? How long are they likely to survive after the vehicle has encountered a few potholes?

Some Uber drivers are driving "rentals" (arranged through Uber). What does the rental company that supplies Uber, prefer ?

The Prius is the preferred taxi car here at least, in this city. A typical arrangement, is two or three taxi drivers share one car. This allows the vehicle and the taxi "plate" to be shared as an expense, by the individuals buying into the share. It means the car is driving 24 hours a day.

Paul

Doesn't have to be town/suburbia, we are out in the country but town and back is mostly within our hybrid's electric range.

That's about what our hybrid does on battery after charging overnight, even if the last few miles are on petrol most of the distance would be on battery charged by cheap, overnight, electricity.

It's just a bad idea.

Think about the sum total of all insults a car faces. That idea is just asking for trouble. A hail storm, with golf-ball sized hail, is an example.

Yet, there are reports of users having some tiles replaced under warranty for this kind of hail damage (Texas). I've had only a couple golf ball hail hit the roof, and that's *loud*. Most of our hail here, is the corn kernel kind. The golf ball one, only lasted for 20 seconds, before it changed over. And the balls weren't all that dense, fortunately. I looked out the window, and saw them hitting the road out front of the house, and bouncing up.

Some areas, *every* hail storm is the golf ball kind. It wipes out crops. It smashes windshields. In some cases, you may not be able to get insurance for that damage, because it happens every year with regularity. If you get dings in the finish, you just leave them. But the broken windshields must be replaced (or you'll get a road citation).

If a car company is doing this, and it's not an after-market addition, the car company must ensure it will work for everyone. Not just the people in "ideal parts of the country". It must also work in a hell-hole.

Example:

The windshield is so big on the Cybertruck, the wiper blade is a large floppy appendage tied to a wiper motor.

And like that article mentions, windshields crack easily, if installed incorrectly. A windshield must only be "bedded" and resting on compound, NOT on the steel frame, NOT on raised rusted humps. A rusty hump under a windshield, you'll lose the windshield about once a year.

Paul

It goes without saying that if the Greens rave about it, its a totally crap idea.

Don't they deliver?

This is, AIUI, paint we're talking about, not panels.

Yes, but I need to get out of the house sometimes...and you get good deals in store

Also I like to see the fresh fruit and veg before I buy it, especially the stuff that has a short shelf life.