Shower and toilet and basin into a tiny room ?

[George Miles]

Into how small a room can I fit a shower and toilet and basin? The floor could be like a wet room floor all the way to the walls ideas and experience and links please ? George

[Theo]

A Cambridge college retrofitted 'en suites' that were roughly the size of a (wide) toilet cubicle with a wet room floor. Next to the toilet was a basin, and the shower head protruded from the wall from above the basin and mirror.

It was probably 1-2 square metres.

Theo

[Graham Harrison]

Would a toilet with a sink integrated into the tank help?

[The Natural Philosopher]

I did it comfortably in about 3x1 meters

best to open the door outwards tho, If Id done that 1x2 meters would be on

gotta teensy corner basin to one side of the toilet at one end, and a shower and drain at the other. Biggest problem would be where to keep the towels dry..

[charles]

That's probably a bit more space than in the new Caledonian Sleepers.

[John Rumm]

You can get it into a pretty snug space if you want. A "standard" shower tray is usually around 750mm square - so that probably sets you minimum width. For an enclosure you could fit a tray that matches the width of the room - tile three sides, and put a bifold door in to create the 4th side.

You can get even get WCs with low level cisterns, where the basin is mounted on top of the cistern - making it very compact. Some also do grey water collection from the basin.

So you can probably go down to 6' x 4', and have a decent sized shower - without needing to go full wet room style, or even a bit smaller.

[David]

I could go outside and measure up the caravan but it is cold, dark and wet. [And there are wolves after me.]

Cheers

Dave R

[Jeff Layman]

On a business visit to Brussels about 35 years ago I stayed in a newly-modernised hotel. The shower/toilet was so small you had to step over the toilet bowl to get to the shower! I don't remember for certain, but guess the wash basin was in the bedroom itself. I reckon the toilet/shower was about 150 cm long x 90 cm wide.

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

George Miles has brought this to us :

Some tourer caravans have a really tiny bathroom space, so worth taking a look at them for ideas. One we had had a flip down washbasin, over a toilet. Toilet had a cover, toilet roll under the cover, so it served as a shower seat as well. Shower head clipped on the wall or over the wash basin, into a bathroom cupboard. Tip the hinged washbasin up and that would drain it.

[Tim Lamb]

In message <rtq5lm$6ig$ [e-mail], Harry Bloomfield <?.?@harrym1byt.plus.com.invalid> writes

My wet room is 1.6m x 2.2m. Toilet, corner wash basin and wall mounted shower head.

The corner basin is criticised by other users as being too small to wash your hair! Why would they need to in a wet room!

The shower rail needs improving. I created an *S* to keep water off the door and towel rail. The tiny nylon hangers jam as soon as you try to drag them round a bend. Nobody seems to do roller types small enough for my slotted rail:-(

The other unforeseen error was to common the underfloor heating with the adjacent utility room. Because that houses the boiler, tumble drier, chest freezer and washing machine, the thermostat never calls for heat!

[Chris Green]

Boat/ship installations might give you some ideas too.

[George Miles]

1.2m deep from door which could open outwards, 1.5 m wide

[alan_m]

These small basins can result in a lot of water on the floor as they are often not big enough to catch the water from peoples hands when being washed. Possibly not too much of a problem in a wet room.

Don't make the mistake of fitting a designer high tap or one with a long spout :) Also make sure to install isolator valves to the tap inlet pipes as you may want to also use them to reduce the water pressure at the output of the tap. I have the T shirt when installing a new tap on a very small sink, fully opening up the isolating service valves and fully opening the quarter lever tap to find that the water hits the bottom of the sink and then bounces off in an attempt to flood the rest of the room.

I've found even with roller hangers on a slightly curved shower rail that they occasionally invert so the rollers are at the shower curtain rather than at the top of the rail.

[Nick Odell]

We've got a wet room in the apartment in Argentina which measures about 1m x 1.3. (I'm not there now but I could ask EQDSO to measure it if you want me to.)

Standard toilet and washbasin on one long wall, shower head in between them on the other

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A couple of caveats: the door is only about 600mm wide so it swings past the washbasin. It opens inwards and has a windscreen-wiper-style scraper on the bottom which pushes excess water away from the door opening. Also, these apartments have the toilet cisterns built into the walls so there is no need to make allowance for their size. Maybe this would give you something to go on?

Nick

[DJC]

Like this

Wet room I created fifteen years ago.

[Tim Lamb]

ISTR one of the other Tims put up some photos of his wet room some years back. I copied his idea of a linear drain under the shower head. Fitting 12" square floor tiles at 45deg. (diagonal) made creating the floor falls easy.

[Roger Hayter]

I used a Dimplex CPTC Compact Corner Towel Rail, electric, which fitted neatly just inside the doorway without impeding entry, and is mounted quite high so a small trolley fits underneath for storage. Combined with thinnish (but highly absorbent) Hammam cotton towels this is enough for five towels. A wall-mounted fan equipped wet radiator provides heating, as the towel rail is electric, and rather low power.

[Tim Lamb]

In message [e-mail]>, Roger Hayter [e-mail] writes

My electrician was very stressed about wet room electricity! Low voltage extract fan, IP5 light, no shaver point but the mains towel rail was OK as the feed from a timer was external.

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[Roger Hayter]

He could have fitted a shaver point if it was more than a distance I have forgotten from the fixed shower outlet point.

[Tim Lamb]

In message [e-mail]>, Roger Hayter [e-mail] writes

Indeed. I used the Bristan thermostatic bar valve which can be hand held.

On that.. you need a Gorilla grip or wear a rubber glove to operate the polished chrome controls:-(

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