Re: Plumbing DIY SOS kit

Pipe freezer kit
I've done all manner of plumbing and never needed it.
PTFE tape
yes
Plumbing wrench
some water pump pliers, or just a crescent wrench, one of the dedicated
1/2"+3/4" split ring spanners is nice
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Silicone sealant
> Some kind of pipe leak sealant
LS-X
Isolation valves
A handful of push-fit stop ends in 15mm and 22mm
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but what else would the panel recommend?
Are you planning on soldering?
Reply to
Andy Burns
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If you are worried about flooding, I suggest that you don't use this. :)
In any case, it won't work at all if there's any water flow at all.
It might be better to get one of these:
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Reply to
GB
Yes, I was going to say that. A pipe freezer kit really isn't an emergency sort of thing, more a way of doing something that would take longer and/or more effort by other means. Also I think you very much need to know what you're doing to use one successfully.
Reply to
Chris Green
I was thinking of places where it's not easy to fit an isolator, eg annoying corners. Or to avoid drain, fix, refill, oops-I-did-it-wrong, drain, fix, refill cycles :)
Although point taken about bursting pipes :(
Do they work on plastic?
Theo
Reply to
Theo
What's the recommendation for new interior plumbing these days? Copper? PVC? PE? What kind of fittings?
I think we're mostly copper, although I'm not sure what has been tacked on. Pipe soldering is probably a useful skill to pick up anyway... (done lots of other kinds of soldering)
Theo
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Theo
Indeed, but the problem is putting them in... (without leaking everywhere)
Are end feed preferred to solder ring? And compared to compression?
Theo
Reply to
Theo
In message <fnr* snipped-for-privacy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo <theom+ snipped-for-privacy@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
Little difference providing you have cleaned (I use wire wool) and fluxed the pipe. You need something to protect the wall behind the pipe from the flame. I use a cement bonded asbestos offcut but you can buy a small heat resistant blanket.
Reply to
Tim Lamb
I prefer end feed, and I also use stainless steel wire rather than wire wool as that rots in any moisture.
Reply to
Fredxx
+1 on all of that advice.
Its possibly *slightly* easier to make a neat joint with the 'in connector' solder, but its also slightly easier to leave a leak....
Reply to
The Natural Philosopher
If you're in an older property it really helps knowing what pipe is metric (15mm, 22mm) and what is imperial (1/2" , 3/4"), particularly if you're going to use pushfit.
Reply to
Reentrant
You can still get lead solder (*) which is easier to use with a cheapo Wickes etc blowlamp. solder-ring will presumably always be lead-free and need a hotter flame, surely ?.
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) for central heating pipes.
Reply to
Andrew
If you use Hep20 or similar, remember to use the strain relief supports if you have a 90 degree bend immediately before a pushfit connector, otherwise there will be a lateral force on the O ring in the connector which might leak at some point.
Reply to
Andrew
That's very important. I had a narrow escape when I had to cut-out an isolator that was weeping (after a change to mains pressure DHW) and temporarily cap the pipe while I bought a new full-bore isolator. All the plumbing is metric (or so I thought) so I just popped-on a 22mm push-fit stop-end - it went on unusually easily but I didn't think any more about it until later, when I tried to connect to it and realised it was imperial. Fortunately the stop-end stayed on!!
Reply to
nothanks
A selection of compression fittings takes care of metric to imperial connections in an emergency.
Soldering 3/4 copper to 22mm needs special solder connectors. Homebase used to sell them, but I haven't been in one for years.
Reply to
Andrew
I have a couple, I think the only remaining 3/4" inch pipe is the expansion up and over from the H/W tank to the header tank in the loft.
Reply to
Andy Burns
You won't burst the pipe using one of those. Probably. But you might find that the ice doesn't hold for long, and once any water starts to get by it'll melt the ice plug extremely quickly.
Reply to
GB
I've got a couple of items that have proved very useful but I don't know how to describe - rubber bung for sealing the end of a pipe temporarily - a conical rubber thing with ribs that fits into the pipe end then you turn a plastic threaded handle that causes the bung to get tighter in the pipe.
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Murmansk

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