To all those arguing that phone based satnavs were as good as dedicated ones, because you can always download the maps onto the phone in order to avoid network charges and/or lack of data connections;
Don't go to Tokyo.
You can't download Google maps for Tokyo. Good job I have a decent international roaming tariff and 4G is ubiquitous and reliable in Japan, eh?
Ahh, so I have to f*ck around finding and learning to use another Satnav app than the one built into my 'phone merely so you don't have to admit that you're wrong?
In what way is what I suggested wrong? You said you couldn't download Google maps for Tokyo, I pointed you to an app that allows you to do that. I *didn't* say it was as good as a dedicated satnav. *You* added that in.
We use CoPilot because it avoids roads which aren't suitable due to height, weight and width restrictions. Pretty important when towing a caravan.
It also works for the car opn its own but we tend to stick with the venerable TomTom. However I am having trouble justifying the cost for another 12 months of TomTom maps at £60 when I get lifetime updates on CoPilot.
The *one* thing I like about using HERE, is that in driving mode, you get the speed limit clearly displayed.
Google Maps (despite many years of people asking for such a feature) doesn't.
Of course, it the ****ing inbuilt "sat nav" in my car had a reliable speed limit feature, I wouldn't need my phone. But then it seems to have been lifted from a 1990s early GPS unit.
If you add "TomTom Speed Cameras app" and run it before Google Maps Driving it can be set to superimpose just the speed limit, the vehicle speed and a "report Speed Cameras" button. It can be set so it starts up automatically as soon as you get in Bluetooth range of your car, and run as a standalone map if you don't want the voice navigation from Maps. It uses the Android text to speak to issue warnings of average speed cameras etc (and your average speed), but can be a tad confusing if the same female voice talks over itself when both apps are running. On the other hand, blokes with a wife and a Mother-in-Law will be used to that.
O.K. - perhaps you could just post a link to a new TomTom which includes route planning for caravans and Motor Homes. One which takes note of height, length, width and weight.
I've installed CP on my S7 phone and the UK map and so far it looks ok. It still shows our road as giving access to a bigger road that 1) was never a public ROW to vehicular traffic and that has had no vehicular access *at all* for probably 10+ years nor but I might see if there is any opportunity to feedback map updates etc.
That was my current dilemma. I have had a GPS / Sat Nav since the Garmin GPSIII (c 1997, woah, 20+ years now), going though many of their models along the way to my current Nuvi 215 (with BT and traffic). However, the maps are getting a bit old now and whilst I'm tempted to buy a 'lifetime updates', I'm away it's only for the lifetime of that unit and it's getting quite old now.
I really only use the traffic as 'background' information and don't have automatic traffic avoidance turned on (preferring to determine that myself).
I have downloaded the Google maps and have used the Google sat nav thing with good results (typically finding a weird address when the Garmin has got me very close), I'm still not convinced I want to use my Phone *as* the GPS full time and I can't (and won't) use it on the Motorbike for all sorts of reasons.
I think I stuck mine (and the CoPilot maps) in the SD card and there is plenty of room on there.
So, I'm slightly confused what you get from CoPilot for free and what you might need to pay for?
As you say, the Android 'Premium Navigation' app is reduced today (50% etc) (£8.99 instead of £17.99) but it's not clear that it's a one off payment or yearly subscription?
Looking at their webstore:
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It suggests the 'CoPilot GPS' app is either free (with free trials of the voice guidance and ActiveTraffic) or 'from £9.99' (one off?) for the straight 'CoPilot' app plus a subscription for ActiveTraffic (£4.99 pa today?) and map upgrades that are 'in app purchases'?
So, I would either stick CP on an old phone to use as a dedicated (car) GPS or buy a new Garmin (I dislike TomTom) and subscribe to Lifetime Map upgrades from the getgo (or buy one where they come built in).
None of them are perfect, I find. Google completely screws up the street numbers on our road, for example, whilst CoPilot is spot on.
I've got a Garmin Nüvi 52® with lifetime maps, but since I have to have my phone anyway, it seemed daft carrying two devices. The Garmin is slower to update its maps than Google, of course, but a tad quicker than CoPilot. CoPilot is quite a lot better than the Garmin (the one I have anyway) overall.
Sounds wise on the bike.
I've got room - but Google won't let me select the whole of the UK. I get most of England and some of Wales but no East Anglia or vice versa.
It was a one off payment for the full voice app and maps when I bought mine ( a couple of years back), but it's an annual sub for the traffic data service.
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