Part Q? Plumbing regs

"The government is moving towards extending self-certification across other trades. From April 2006, competent persons will be required to self-certificate [sic] plumbing work, including unvented cylinders, to meet the compliance requirements of the Building Regulations. As /Gas Installer/ goes to press, we have yet to be informed of the complete criteria for entry and how this competency may be measured." (From CORGI's 'Gas Installer' magazine, November 2005 issue, just out.)

So there you have it: another meticulously thought-out scheme worked out in full consultation with all the relevant bodies and introduced in a measured timescale. Now might be a good time to let your elected representatives know what an unmitigated success Part P has been and how much you think the proposed regs will help consumers, the trades and responsible DIYers, perhaps with especial reference to the skills shortage and how having to pay through the nose for fancy registered plumbers and electricians because of the changes may affect your voting intentions.

Perhaps also your MP can find out how many lives these proposed measures (whatever they are) will save (and how).

ISTR the words "Regulatory Impact Assessment" from somewhere, too.

Reply to
john.stumbles
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Ah but not having the ideal fall specified in the regs can be lethal. I have it right here, the annual statistics for combined road and plumbing deaths: 3600 per year. Horrendous! You should be ashamed of yourself for undermining this attempt to take away the basic freedoms of the public, their right to make their plumbing better. Ahem, I mean to save thousands of lives.

Sounds familiar...

NT

Reply to
meow2222

This is bullshit pushed from what used to be the Institute of Plumbers. This is the mob who said (condescendingly) that DIY of putting up a few shelves was OK, but that plumbing definitely needed a professional.

When I was a kid, living not too far from you, the area was part of Wokingham and remained unchanged politically for donkey's years. People had their businesses and the government didn't interfere. Now we hear that "Jane's the one". What is this crap?

In respect of Part P, I did write to my MP, (the Shadow Secretary of State for Deregulation) and he in turn did write to ministers in J++'s department. Frankly, it was a waste of time because the civil servants involved had blatantly cooked the books in terms of the RIA (probably under ministerial pressure).

One answer is to write, expose and embarrass.

I've always been a believer in the concept of "Some men are discovered. Others are found out". J++ is way past the second and ready for a fall. THe real question is when will the electorate stop drinking the Kool Aid and realise what's going on.....

Of course, if all else fails, we should at least ensure that the Approved Document to Part Q contains an explicit requirement that hacksaws must not be used for cutting plastic pipe. This act alone would make RWE group a lot more money without having to drop water pressures. Of course J++ wouldn't be a sailor again, so a lot of people would be disappointed.

Reply to
andy hall

This is the stuff they keep repeating over and over again on DIY programs. Frankly you're a lot more likely to injure yourself putting up shelves than you are doing plumbing work. If one were to check A&E department statistics for DIY injuries I don't think DIY plumbers or DIY electricians are going to feature much in them.

Reply to
Mr Fizzion

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:58:28 GMT, a particular chimpanzee named snipped-for-privacy@ntlworld.com randomly hit the keyboard and produced:

It's already a requirement to notify Building Control of any installation of or alteration to drainage, and for the installation of unvented hot water storage vessels. Water supply is covered by its own set of regulations, although not controlled by Building Control.

There was a self-certification scheme available for the Institute of Plumbers to install unvented hot water storage vessels and to work on drainage, but it wasn't taken up, so it was repealed. Are CORGI launching over a take-over bid for all plumbing work?

I've just looked on the ODPM website, and I can't see anything which changes these positions.

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Hugo Nebula

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