I reckon that's spot on. Looking at my peers, I can see that the vast
majority that are not married live by themselves. A few have divorced/split
up (that's what prolonged commuting to Europe does for relationships...) and
now live in separate dwellings.
If you think about the demographic changes that the country has gone through
in the last 25 years, if a mere1m more people live as single entities than
in 1978 then that would account for the the same demand on housing as an
average immigration figure of 40,000 _unconnected individuals_ per year over
the whole 25 year period. The former figure is probably vastly lower than
actuality, the latter much higher. Immigration is a complete red herring.
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I think that one particular area that will bear the brunt of the new housing
will be north-east of London - Herts and Essex, especially around places
like Stansted. Compared to the areas around the north, west and south-west
of London land and houses are cheap, with a lot of small towns in rural
settings. Stansted airport is also earmarked for a large expansion, I
believe. There's a lot of protest about this going on, so when building
will actually start is anybody's guess.
Another place to look would be the Heathrow T5 development - this is going
full steam ahead at the moment (but ISTR that they have discovered
archeological artefacts and things there, so dont' know whether this will
have halted anything) and I think that there was great demand for people of
all trades. Contract rates were rumoured to be high.
But this could all be incorrect - I only know about T5 because it's close to
me & local press has stuff in about it, and Stansted because we'd idly
considered moving there,before the new housing plans and airport expansion
looked as if it might change the nature of the area.
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Thank you for the reply.
I'm not in favour of mass building projects either but not like the
political dimwits above who have their heads in the sand, I have to
earn a living. Having sampled life in the back of beyond as well as
life in the city I much prefer to be near a shop when I feel peckish.
When there is enough housing the prices will stabilise or fall until
then there is a desperate need, so bad, that people will tie
themselves and all their working capitol to unsuitable boxes in
unpleasant areas for 3 to 4 decades. I don't think it is a crime
against humanity to work my best for the best I can work for, if that
will help them in any way. Do you?
On 15 Aug 2003 11:31:31 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org (Michael
I respect others ability to choose their own lifestyle, however before
the supermarket and family car came over the horizon the "feeling
peckish" syndrom certainly existed. And its solution was to wander
down to the farmers kitchen, collecting a couple of eggs from the hen
shed on the way. And maybe helping out in the game of converting a pig
on four legs to rashers of bacon. Etc.
I hate to think what would happen to our society if a big rock fell
out of the sky and destroyed our infrastructure - the human kind has
largely forgotten how to fend for itself, and expects to be fed from
the Tescos shelves.
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I should think it would last a site longer than a plea for resources
in a thread like this -which turns into a plaint for times past (which
were always sunny and devoid of toil, where a six mile walk before
breakfast was the norm (whatever frame of mind one was in at the
outset and whatever the weather betimes) and a death by tubercular
infection of some kind was not so much a threat but a way of staving
off old age) before there are more than two sensible replies.
People are resourceful, have and always will be.
Don't know quite what your definition of 'back of beyond' is -
presumably outside the M25 or north of the Watford Gap, or similar. I
live in Skipton, N.Yorks. A small lively market town with a very good
range of shops and amenities, including a 24hr Tescos (for when you
feel peckish) and a good renage of restaurants, 15 minute walk/5
minute car journey away. I commute into West Yorkshire on a very
modern fleet of Electric Trains, so reliable you could virually set
your watch by them. They are comfortable, air conditioned and rarely
overcrowded. If you do hanker for something more cosmopolitan, Leeds
is about 1 hour by car, slightly quicker on the train. Personally an
occasional sortie for Tapas... or Sushi... or a classical concert at
Leeds City Hall... or a gadget hunting trip :) is more enough for me.
If you can find work outside the S.East - and I know this is what
determines everything - then consider your options, broaden your
horizons - you may be pleasantly surprised.
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P.S. You don't have to live in a shoe box up here either.
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In this case the back of beyond was a medium sized caravan sans
plumbing or electricity and gas lighting that required a walk of over
a mile for a new bottle every so often; not funny in winter or summer.
Milk was sterilised (ie unpalatable) and the toilet was a polythene
bucket. The village was some 200 to 300 hundred souls all told and the
job was labouring which was a struggle as I had a problem keeping
things fresh for sandwiches etc and the money was always very, very
I now live in Stoke on Trent. The place is excellent but that is
because I am white. I am perfectly aware that even the nicest of my
neighbours is a founder member of the British Nationalist party at
I have no problem finding work nowadays because there is so much
about. However I have just come out of hospital after a bowel
resection. I will be unfit for work for several months and as I have
no licence I shall be unable to transport my toolkit which is both
extensive and heavy.
If and when I get my licence back -which I lost through drunk driving
(a complete one off I assure you) I shall buy a van for the security
for my kit and to sleep in if I decide to look for work in an area
where the pay is astronomical. I should then be able to afford to move
back into the back of beyond for the off times, as and when they
If anyone with a full licence and a feeling for second fix joinery
would care to party up with me when I am fitter let me know.
Fair enough - I think this qualifies for back of beyond!
Was this in the UK? After a period of travelling in Central & S
America a few years ago I can relate to these sort of hardships.
Sounds like you've had a pretty rough time. Hope you manage to get
things sorted and on your feet quickly.
Since this has got completely off topic now, there is a source of
help/strength that you may well never have considered. It is
inadequate to just drop these links in really, but I don't want to go
on. For what it's worth, here they are; have a read of them and
explore the site further if you wish. Have a think about it. Its
totally up to you.
All the best
Allegedly they are due to build 3,000 new homes in the Trimleys between
Ipswich and Felixstowe.
Bidwells are involved in this.
Early days yet, so don't know when they start in earnest (if at all).
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