Thank goodness I don't need heating oil at the moment. But for next
year, what about using propane gas in a bottle as a stopgap?
I'm looking at the webpage
where the price of a 47kg bottle is £54.18 in my area.
If I had, say, a gas cooker hob how long might I run it full tilt
during the day on 47kg? Say 10 hours a day.
A 19 kg bottle lasts me 5 months just for cooking on a hob. I do lots of
cooking but it isn't used on average for more than 60 mins a day, with
one to three burners in use. Using a *very* rough guesstimate, if on 10
hours a day with one big burner in use, you might get two months. Don't
hold me to that though. The data about my use is correct, so you can do
your own calculations.
Also you'd get a lot of condensation unless you had an extractor fan
which had an external outlet.
Harry mentioned condensation, too. Something I hadn't considered at
Now, in terms of cost, I could:
- have the oil CH working most of the day with all radiators except
the kitchen (which is mainly where I spend the winter) turned down to
frost protection only
- use an oil-filled electric radiator (variable 800W to 2000W) as I
- use an external propane red bottle to power the gas hob
At present, the hob is electric (wipe-clean flat-surface type)
Which one of those scenarios appeals? NB: Take into account the
current enormous rise in heating oil price, which might not drop for
Yes that would be a sensible option if you can eliminate the risk of
theft. £2000+ worth of black gold sitting in a big tank in your garden
is an open invitation. It would take minutes for anyone equipped with
a large tank on a flatbed with a pump to drain and once theirs was
full they'd let the rest spill on the ground. Or they might be clever
and have a sign written box van with the tank stowed away inside out
No you need to do what Chubb used to do when I worked there.. run a
continuous length of thin, weak wire in a snake pattern all over the surface
yo want to protect and run the alarms anti-tamper circuit through it. Any
attempt to get through breaks the wire and sounds the alarm. You will
probably have to glue the cable to the tank or use the lead foil strips that
you see on shops. The foil is easy to attach using varnish.
Well, that sounds interesting in principle, but it's a large area to
cover with thin wire and I'd hate to have to find a break in it because
Mr Blackbird chased Mrs Blackbird all over the top of the thing.
"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
I think what is needed is a strong metal spiked fence all around the
tank, 2 feet away from the tank. After all, by making it more
difficult at one tank, the thieves will choose elsewhere. Tough on the
neighbours I know, but it's worth several hundred quid as a one-off to
protect £1500's worth of oil.
We have an external propane red bottle (two actually) to power our gas
hob instead of electric, but that's just because we find a gas hob nicer
to use, nothing to do with heating the house and price of oil.
Well, yes, that was what motivated my neighbour to change and what
initially interested me, too, since I also hate cooking on an electric
hob. An electric oven is fine, but gas rings are so much more
controllable for everything else. However, in Flackwell Heath, my
previous demesne, the gas hob was very useful for quickly spreading
warmth throughout the kitchen on very cold days.
We have 2 13kg bottles on an automatic changeover, one lasts about 6
months, and we can easily swap them ourselves. (I think a 47kg cylinder
would fail on the last point.). It's a fairly easy job to install a
setup like that (flexible 10mm-ish copper, ours was done in one run,
though the cylinders are just outside the kitchen), there's no worries
about gas boards looking at your installation and condemning it, so if
you're at all competent I'd say do it.
We have 2 x 47kg propane on an automatic changeover valve. I fitted the hob
and valve myself - it's reasonably easy if you're competent with copper
plumbing. I thoroughly leak tested the whole thing - I don't care what the
law says but I care very much about being blown up. 47kg of propane lasts
about a year; we're keen cooks so the hob gets used every day. As for changing
the bottles, the bloke who brings the gas does that, although I can move
them by rolling them on their bases. The gas man can pick them up!
Today is Pungenday, the 61st day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3176
I'd rather have a free press than a football tournament.
I leak tested mine - it's a pretty obvious thing to do. Unfortunately
the builders doing the extension didn't test the cut/join they did :-(.
Replaced the ill-sized compression fitting they tried to use with a
proper solder one, and all is good again.
One nice thing about a propane cylinder is on a quiet night you can hear
it boiling gently when gas is coming out, even if just through a leak.
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