Erbauer 1/2" Router

[Doctor Drivel]

Matt, cut the crap out. All these machine do what the makers say they do. The only point is that if you are using them every day they will fail quicker. For every day use you get a Trend.

[Doctor Drivel]

A Ryobi 1/2" router for £43 plus P&P

[andy hall]

I'm not sure what Matt has to do with this.

Regarding my own comment, I have both DW and Trend routers and use both at least weekly.

I've also tried both the Erbauer and the PPPro and found both poor with the mechanisms being sticky. WHen that is the case, it doesn't matter how cheap the thing is, as far as I am concerned it's worthless.

[andy hall]

Where does it say that these people are professionals? The guy seems to be focussed just on purchase price like yourself. I suppose he does have the saving grace that he appears to be actually using said tools.

[John Rumm]

Possibly... some of the more recent low end models seem to be reducing the min speed a little.

I expect many of the retailers also count on the fact that a good many buyers will be unlikely to also buy a table to stick it in the first place.

[Bob Martin]

raised-panel door set I mentioned in an earlier post - it wass also too fast for said bits (min speed 14000 whereas the bits have a max speed of

9000 and 12000).

Bob Martin

[Bob Martin]

I use the Erbauer every day. When used in a table the sticky plunge is irrelevant.

[Doctor Drivel]

Is your plunge sticky? Matt is the only one who experiences all this.

[daddyfreddy]

Going off at a tangent but I was in Aldi today and saw their cheapy router. One was out of the box and I was using the plunge mechanism. Rather than a lever to lock the plunge it had a lock when lever released mechanism something which I'd much prefer to have on my DeWalt because I find the locking lever a bit of a pain in use.

[Doctor Drivel]

!/2" or 1/4"? How much was it?

[daddyfreddy]

1/4" for =A319.99. The one that's been discussed recently on UK DIY.

[andy hall]

Until you want to fine adjust the height.

[andy hall]

One *can* cut a worktop with a 6.25mm bit, but there are a number of potential difficulties:

- Motors on the 6.25/8mm size of router (even with the decent quality routers) are limited in output power so very small cuts would have to be made

- 6.25mm bits are liable to bit chatter and consequent rough edges on the work

- Long 6.25mm bits would be especially prone to this and have a high risk of breaking.

In other words, the technique is unsuitable for the application.

[Doctor Drivel]

10% off and the £50 Screwfix jig, it is cheaper to DIY it and you have a router and jig thrown in.

[andy hall]

10% off what?

This is about as ridiculous a statement as that made by a woman attempting to sell double glazing in the front entrance of Focus most weekends. She wanted to know if I wanted a quote because they had 50% off. I suppose that there are people gullible enough to fall for this type of offer.

"Thrown in" is certainly an apt turn of phrase.

[Doctor Drivel]

Matt, The router. Boy you are slow.

It isn't.

Yes people are stupid to pay less.

[andy hall]

Those looking for a proper 12.7mm router rather than a toy, might like to look at Axminster's web site.

They currently have an offer for the CMT 1850 at =A3170. This is an equivalent to the industry standard classic Elu, DW625 and Trend T9 routers - all solid, quality, dependable products.

At this price point, it provides a very good alternative to the Freud.

[Doctor Drivel]

Matt , B&Q are selling a 1/2" Trend for £99. And the PP Pro at £50 (100% off right now) with all the bits and bobs is well worth it to just cut a worktop. £170 to leave something on the shelf for years on end? Are you really that mad?

[Matt]

I think they had both voltage versions on offer before but now they only have the 110v. Presently considering buying one for use on a new router table though where the transformer would be less of a drawback.

[andy hall]

I used to use my DW625 (essentially the same product) in a router table (nowadays I use a router spindle in my spindle moulder). It's plenty powerful enough for this even with quite large cutters since the input power is genuinely reflected in mechanical results.

I would suggest getting a plunge bar to help with coarse height adjustment in a router table unless you were thinking of making one with a built in method of height adjustment - e.g. like the Axminster Routalift.