Domestic Cat 5 cabling and management

[meow2222]

I said the same of 10M ethernet. Fixed wiring will be in place a long time.

NT

[The Natural Philosopher]

Yup. File transfer between my machine are seriously better at 100Mbps than 10Mbps. It is after all only 12.5MBytes/sec...think in terms of a

500 megabyte file...not huge by todays standaed if graphical.

gong to 1Gbps is 4 seconds rather than 40 seconds.

A SATA disk is around 3Gbps So even a gigabit network is three times slower than raw file access..

[tony sayer]

Yep but then again I use a 800 MHz pentium for a lot of work;)...

[Appin]

The message from "TheScullster" contains these words:

Beats me why one should go to all the trouble to install a decent network setup and yet fail to install even a simple PABX for the landline/s.

[Mike]

Darkness, no lighting, intense cold, starvation, war, no telly, no Internet, no broadband, no telephone.

Certainly nothing requiring structured wiring in a 3 bed semi unless this 3 bed semi becomes the seat of the new government.

[Mike]

Because after a lifetime of dialling 9 for an outside line some of us just want to pick up a phone and dial a number.

But then some of us (like me!) can't really see the point of flooding a house with structured wiring when three or four well chosen cable runs of cat 5 and a decent wireless router fulfill most requirements.

Fit one wired phone in a suitable place near the NTE and a one or two handset VoIP capable cordless plugging directly into the broadband router and it's sufficient to cover the entire house and other locations such as a home office at the bottom of the garden, or the garage or workshop.

[Adam Aglionby]

Homeplug is an alliance not a closed system ,so prices are coming down and speeds up:

[Dave Liquorice]

I can see your glass is half empty. Mines half full. B-)

Got to admit we are at the turning point between your description of the future and one that is similar to our current one but far far more sustainable. It's going to be painful but at least Obama seems to realise it unlike his, in the pocket of Big Oil, predecessor.

[D.M. Procida]

Neither the builder nor the archtect said anything about preparing for the apocalypse.

Daniele

[D.M. Procida]

manufacture to (even if the manufacturer base is widening).

Did you look at the Flash slideshow on their homepage? The US mains plug looks scarily primitive!

Daniele

[D.M. Procida]

I can't imagine why I'd want one!

Daniele

[The Natural Philosopher]

Its a curious point.

Many people don't even think of doing it. they just want 'phones like they are used to' everywhere..or DECT.

[The Natural Philosopher]

The things we CAN afford WILL be internet.

Whether we are cold and dark depends largely on whether the prejudice against nuclear power prevails or not.

same for starvation, really. Given the energy, the food can be grown.

War? yes..thats a very real possibility.

No Telly? Yup. end of commercial broadcasting for sure, and decent films.

But scads of Internet Broadband and telephone. These things are cheap.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Well in my case is was a simple question of a large house, with two lines and many phones..more than could be reliably driven by the BT line.

Plus three possible 'front doors' needing bells.

And a construction that is very radio opaque. DECT a nogo

A 3 into 8 PABX using the cheapest scrap phone plus three doorphones did the job beautifully.

Plus when I have cooked supper, I can phone my somewhat deaf wife, rather than shouting up the stairs, which irrtates her.

But the real bonus is being able to transfer the mother in law to her without having to run up and down the stairs..

[whisky-dave]

Of course..... actually I'd like to know about running a fibre optic cable.

[Tim S]

whisky-dave coughed up some electrons that declared:

Lookup "Siemon" - we used their fibre terminations at Imperial College, was quite easy to do with minimal tools and a bit of practise. Mind you, "proving" the cable (other than plugging it in and seeing if it worked) needed rather expensive equipment.

?GI_ID=fi_lc-field-installable-connectors

[pcb1962]

Once you have a decent network you can use Asterisk, no need for phone lines at all.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Running the cable is easy. Terminating it is not.

[Tim S]

The Natural Philosopher coughed up some electrons that declared:

It's not actually *that* difficult these days. Systems vary - but the Siemon crimp SC system was taught to me in about 15 minutes and the special tools involved a) the correct crimps; b) a special little measuring and snapping thingy. The system was "dry" as in no funny oils or epoxies.

I'm not saying it's simple, but with an instruction sheet it's within the remit of someone with a steady hand and good eyesight.

Cheers

Tim

[Pete Verdon]