Up to 75% of councils are dimming the lights to save money
Using a dimmer switch on your lights at home doesn't save very much in
electricity AFAIK, e.g. dimming to half the light doesn't reduce the
power consumption by 50% - is it different on street lights?
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
Depends how they do it. They could just replace the bulbs with lower
power ones, for instance, or remove a couple of bulbs from multi-bulb
fittings. Or turn off half the lights in a street.
Then use the savings to pay the extra hospital costs due to the increase
in road accidents. Householders will also notice an increase in
insurance premiums in unlit areas to pay for the increase in burglaries.....
Inserts tongue in cheek> Then again, the story *is* in the Daily Mail.
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 08:57:47 +0100, John Williamson
Even though this story is in the Daily Mail it really is being
proposed in some districts near me.
Of course the council won't have to bear the costs of increased road
collisions and crime so they would probably save a little bit of
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Oh FFS isn't it time you townies stopped being scared of the dark? It 's
bloody miles from my home to the nearest streetlight. Crime is low, vehicle
collisions at night are rare. The significant crash hazard is during
You obviously don't live somewhere urban, then. Conditions are different.
I used to live in a village where I didn't bother checking too
enthusiastically that the door had locked if I went out shopping for the
day. Here, in the middle of a city, I check the door is locked if I nip
out to the shop next door.
In the village, about a dozen cars passed my house in an evening, here
there are hundreds each night, with the same traffic levels at one in
the morning as at one in the afternoon. The accident rate at night is
worse, as the drivers are more likely to be drunk, and there are enough
of them about that a collision is more likely. I'd guess that where you
live, it's unlikely there is more than one car in sight at any one time,
so it's a bit hard to collide with a moving vehicle.
There were no streetlights in the village. There are here. So, maybe if
we get rid of the streetlights, all the criminals will move away. And
the drunks will stop driving round at night.
lotsofspamanymore.invalid> writes>Even though this story is in the Daily Mail it really is being
My local council is running a trial of the dimming devices in the area I
live in, approximately 3 miles sq. The lights only dim between 10pm and
7am. It is noticeable, but not as bad as the claimed 50% savings
I did notice, however, that following the fitting of the control gear a
very large proportion (perhaps approaching 50%) of lights failed.
I have a feeling that the cost of installation and maintenance is going
to outweigh the savings.
The Medway Handyman wrote:
> Up to 75% of councils are dimming the lights
Only dimming? Round here whole swathes of them have been "unplugged",
some have even had their heads removed and most of the rest go off after
00:15 (or rather after 01:15 now the clocks have changed) leaving one
light per street in residential areas.
Vulnerable people don't venture out anyway, even with the street lights on.
Just fit a PIR flood at the front if you think its a problem, the the police
helicopter can watch the people go down the road by following the flood
I wish they would turn the street lights off around here save me having to
use a filter on the scope.
I think its actually good for crime.
First of all, in terms of straight mugging, a victim can hide in the dark.
Having played hide and seek in the dark as a child, one of the most
successful ploys was to lie down in the middle of the garden. They
always looked in bushes
likewise you then need to carry a torch as a crim on B&E jobs. This
makes you a bit obvious.
AS far as accidents go, all vehicles have lights - except cyclists of
course. You can see a light in a pitch black place easily.
If you are a cyclist with no lights, you deserve what you get anyway.
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:35:06 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Aye, I don't think Andy has experienced a cloudy, moonless night.
It's unnervingly dark and you certainly can't move around as you just
can't see *anything*. A single street light 1/2 a mile away will ruin
Even with a new moon starlight is ample to move around in.
So can the mugger before they find their victim, but then anybody
sensible carries a 3D cell Maglite so they can see and a 3D cell
Maglight isn't a weapon is it...
Yep, used to be part of a capture team on night time orienteering
excercises. At night you can simply stand still and quiet in front of
a tree and people will just walk straight past within feet of you.
Same for pedestrians, what is it with people not carrying a torch or
wearing something light coloured or better retro-reflective on them?
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