I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt floor - it's a kind of shiny black - and I dont want to risk breaching the damp proof barrier, nor crumbling the floor, by nailing gripperods down. Is there another way, e.g. very sticky gripperods??
"No more nails"/ Gripfill works pretty well.
Yep, last carpet I had fitted was to a solid floor and the guys used that stuff. Ideally stick the grippers down the day before you want to carpet.
David
Does not sound like asphalt.
Gripfill. Once the carpet's been down for an hour or two, grippers just keep the edges down, they're not subject to much "pull". What sort of carpet are you putting down? Do you need grippers? What really *is* the floor made of, I wonder.
Perhaps not - I'll ask my builder if he knows what it might be.
Does this glue the carpet down, (which I'm not sure I want), or does it glue the grippers down.
A £6 per yard berber I think, over 11mm Cloud 9 underlay.
In areas of other flats where there are no grippers, it looks terrible.
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And remember to pull the nails out that would usually be used to fix them down, or you will have interesting lumps in your carpet!
Probably rubberised bituminous emulsion
Sorry to disagree, but it sounds exactly like the asphalt floor I had in my previous house.
Use the solvent based No More Nails to fix the grippers.
Dave
could be "self leveling" latex cement...
The grippers
David
If it is asphalt or similar i.e. a bitumen based substance, then solvent based adhesives like gripfill or "no more nails"will dissolve the surface to a degree and not adhere strongly enough. We use a urethane or cyanoacrylate type of adhesive to stick the gripper down but don't ask me where you would find a retail outlet for the stuff. That said though, there isn't much strength in bonding to asphalt at the best of times. You might still pull the gripper off the floor if you stretch the carpet properly. Cut the gripper into 300mm lengths to take up any unevenness in the floor, shorter if you have to and don't skimp on the amount of adhesive you use - you need what you need - and that's that! If you find the cyanoacrylate type of adhesive, it will probably be the foaming type so read the instructions properly, I can't stress that enough, you'll find out why when you use it.
Grumble
But you can get "No more nails"-type stuff in both solvent and water-based flavours though; in fact the one I use routinely is water-based
David
Gripfill the gripper only, not the carpet! Or else you will have costly job on your hands
-- Cordless Crazy
It glues the grippers down. If not nailing down, then pull the short masonry nails out, squeeze a good bead along the back of the gripper, and rub it onto the floor (which *must* be clean and not dusty). It's got quite a good "grab", but you might need to put something like bricks on if the gripper's bendy. Leave for 24 hrs. min.
Is that on hessian?
Haven't seen a shiny one!
Yes, I forgot to mention that - the other stuff is not as good, especially for something like this!
replying to Richard Faulkner, [GC]jimi wrote: i am a carpet fitter buy some spay adhesive coat the floor round the out side othe room alow to dry cut carpet grippers into 8 inch strips use gripfill a 1cm beed push gripper strips onto the gripill in a forward backward and left to right movementevenly all the way around the room leaving about 1 cm gap to the skirting leave for at least 24 hrs and bobs your uncle
He left it for more than 24 hours - 11 years ago when he asked the question.
Is that from a veterinary supplier?
Owain
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