buscuit machine or router

I want to do some buiscuitting, I can't decide whether to spend some money on a separate maachine or go with the cheaper option of buying a bit for my router.

What i've read so far suggests that it's hard to get good results using a router without a router table.

I thought i'd see what the experts in here think.

Cheers, Rick

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R D S
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The point about biscuiting is that it's quick and simple to do. This requires a biscuit jointer, not a router.

You also can't make T joints with a router, as the axial motor would be in the way.

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Andy Dingley

It rather depends on what you want to join. If it's a simple bit of edge t= o edge joining as in kitchen worktops, a router cutter is fine (so long as = you don't change the plunge between a pair of cuts) and surprisingly easy t= o use. More complex tasks may well require the real deal.

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GMM

I would just like to add, FFS why do I never check spelling before sending. HTF have I managed to spell biscuit wrong, twice and in two different ways?

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R D S

The joy main benefit of biscuit joints is the ease and speed of placement. You get none of that with a router for this application. The whole exercise is just unsatisfactory with a hand held router. Even in a table, the cutter sets are not large enough to match the biscuit shape with a single cut.

So for this application (much as I love routers), biscuit jointer every time. (and get one with a decent fence that is properly square to the blade and stays that way)

Reply to
John Rumm

Welcome to my world ;-)

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John Rumm

Depending on what you want to join and if it is an expense issue, you might consider dowelling joints. All you need is a jig and a drill and some dowelling . (Round section wood). With carefull measuring you don't even need the jig. Many joints, you can drill both bits of wood simultaneously.

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harry

Cutting for biscuits with a router removes too much material in an area whe= re you really need it.=20

We use biscuit joints ( Blue Bosch. We tried and rejected two deWalt. Too i= naccurate )and dowel joints with a Mafell machine. The dowels usually win a= s they will hold their place in a glue up whilst one is applying pressure t= o the joint. Biscuits can be slid from side to side and dont hold as well b= efore clamping. Having said that the adjustability of the biscuit joint can= be a real bonus. Dowell joints need to be right from the get up and go. Th= e Mafell has excellent fences making accurate drilling a breeze.

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fred

Dowels are a pain though, as they require alignment in two axes. Biscuits = only need one, so they are _far_ quicker to install and build with. Even = if you need two-axis location for the completed structure, you do this with= two biscuits, and only have to position each one precisely in one axis.

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Andy Dingley

Nothing wrong with dowels, but they solve a slightly different problem from biscuit joints. So its a case of pick which is appropriate for the task.

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John Rumm

s only need one, so they are _far_ quicker to install and build with. Eve= n if you need two-axis location for the completed structure, you do this wi= th two biscuits, and only have to position each one precisely in one axis.

Yes but try building a box using only dowels. Dam thing wont stay together = till you get clamps on it. I'm not saying its impossible just that it invol= ves a lot more faffing about.With dowels it will practically hold itself to= gether even without glue. And as I said we use a Mafell dowel jointer which= is very accurate and has excellent fences.

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fred

+1

I have a cheap one and it is perfectly adequate.

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newshound

Perhaps it has to be experienced how easy it is to set up and use a biscuit= jointer. You can literally take it out of the box, maybe adjust the height= stop since last use, and go.

I mainly use it for edge jointing solid timber boards when I need extra wid= th. Simply lay the two boards side-by-side as they will be joined, strike a= mark across in a few places (no measuring, doesn't have to be accurate), a= nd apply the jointer to the marks. Glue and clamp. The cut-outs are very fo= rgiving for minor adjustment.

Similarly easy to do stacked biscuits.

I guess as usual it comes down to "will you get enough use out of it?", and= maybe "do you just want one anyway?".

Reply to
dom

it really does take the buiscut, doesn't it? :)

Reply to
Jules Richardson

Every one knows its bis-cut, from the french, cut twice....

...I'll get my coat...

Oh shit, Its not funny. it IS from the french and it means twice cooked. As opposed to half-baked, one supposes.

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The Natural Philosopher

I am often fitting and changing worktops in our office/workshop at work, there's no need to clamp them but it would be nice if I could have the joins level.

From reading the posts i'll probably keep an eye on ebay and try to get a decent one at a reasonable price.

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R D S

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