I'm currently doing up a one-bedroomed, two storey 1900's terraced
house, and need to install HW/CH from scratch, and would really
appreciate the group's thoughts as to the best way forward.
I don't have gas in the place, but it's in the street so that is an
option if need be, but I'd have installation costs to consider. Nor
do I have an off-peak elec meter.
Given the size of the place space is obviously at a premium, so I'm
almost certainly not going to want an HW cylinder.
The end objective is to sell the place on (or maybe let it), so the
solution needs to be cost-effective from that point of view, but also
attractive to a buyer (eg personally I doubt I'd want to buy a house
with electric storage heating).
I'm guessing a gas combi boiler would be the best bet, notwithstanding
the cost of getting gas in, but am I missing anything? Eg, will I
recoup the installation costs vs electric-only by making it more
saleable? My view is that I don't want any really 'newfangled'
systems (cue IMM!) because however much they may be great ideas, I
think its important not to use anything out of the ordinary, to ensure
the widest possible appeal to a technophobic public...
Providing you have an adequate flow of mains cold water (in order to get an
adequate flow of hot water when heat is applied in real time) a combi boiler
providing instant hot water, and heating a few radiators, sounds like the
obvious solution. You are right about the lack of appeal of electric
heating in general, and storage heaters in particular. A gas-fired system is
far more acceptable - except to my 94-year-old father-in-law who won't have
gas at any price - but he's very much the exception!
If the cold flow is *not* adequate, you will have to consider stored hot
water - but you should still heat it - and the house - with a gas boiler.
| I'm currently doing up a one-bedroomed, two storey 1900's
| terraced house, and need to install HW/CH from scratch,
| I don't have gas in the place, but it's in the street so
| that is an option if need be, but I'd have installation
| costs to consider. Nor do I have an off-peak elec meter.
| Given the size of the place space is obviously at a premium,
| so I'm almost certainly not going to want an HW cylinder.
| The end objective is to sell the place on (or maybe let it),
| so the solution needs to be cost-effective from that point of
| view, but also attractive to a buyer (eg personally I doubt
| I'd want to buy a house with electric storage heating). ...
| I'm guessing a gas combi boiler would be the best bet,
| notwithstanding the cost of getting gas in, but am I missing
| anything? Eg, will I recoup the installation costs vs
| electric-only by making it more saleable?
It will certainly be 'more saleabl' but that is not the same as recouping
the cost of so doing, but it will cost nothing to get a local estate agent
round to value your house and ask 'if I put GCH in what would the impact on
value be?'. You can then compare that against the installation costs.
As well as the costs of providing a gas supply, a boiler and rads will
probably be more costly to install than electric panel heaters. However, if
you aren't going to have a HW cylinder you're limited to instantaneous hot
water, and a 10KW electric shower isn't the most exciting experience, and
people are getting more accustomed to the fact that combis provide
If you are *letting* then all-electric has the advantage that you don't need
a periodic gas inspection, but all-electric heating can have a reputation
for being expensive and difficult to control, and that will be reflected in
the rent tenants are prepared to pay.
If you are *letting* then you may want to spend a bit more on a Reliable
Make of Boiler, if you are doing up for a quick sale then you put in a cheap
one and scarper :-)
Finally, cheap Decorative Flame Effect gas fires are much cheaper and look
much better than electric ones, creating a nice focal point in the lounge,
and many people prefer a gas hob for cooking. Those points may help to
justify the cost of getting the gas supply put in - it's not just for the
HW/CH system but also benefits the lounge and kitchen.
On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 08:44:28 +0000, Lobster wrote:
Given these constraints and you are fixing-to-sell the cost of installing
the gas and putting in a _basic_ 24kW combi boiler is the way forward.
I am not an estate agent but I would reckon that not doing this will
reduce the house price by twice its installation cost.
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at www.diyfaq.org.uk
I'd agree. If it can go in the kitchen, then that also gives you the option
of a gas hob without too much pipework hassle. A nondescript basic unit will
be fine, no-one apart from us sad lot are really interested in what goes on
under the cover, or what brand you use. The new clean white box will hit all
the right notes. The unit itself could be hidden in a cupboard to help give
the impression of 'lots of kitchen storage'.
The agent gets to put 'central heating' in the particulars, IMO electric
heating will immediately reduce the pool of willing buyers.
As there is only one bedroom, flow rate won't be an issue. I assume the
likely future occupiers will either be first time buyers or tenants, so are
unlikely to be too choosy about how the hot water is produced, more
interested in jumping into the shower and rushing off to work.
Absolutely, definitely a combi for this. It will give good showers, which
most tenants like. It will massively increase the value of the property when
selling. Getting the gas in means gas cooking, which is also very popular.
They are also cheap. You don't want to be spending a fortune on a system
that the buyer/tenant will not understand or care about.
Everyone hates electric heating, whether storage or direct. Electric heating
would also require either a hot water cylinder (size) or a 3 phase supply
for instantaneous (expensive). (You can get 24kW electric instant heaters,
but they basically need a whole 100A phase to themselves).
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