Battery charging

Jan 15, 2010 28 Replies

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Haven't seen/heard of any auto batteries here, yet, that are not lead- acid in some form. (e.g. saturated glass mat). Agree it's possible that the multiplicity of 'gadgets' (To the minds of some 'Unnecessary' ones) on modern vehicles that use very small amounts of 'juice' while standing by, 'might' drain down a battery. But seems unlikely! Our 2002 Nissan, with a number of unecessary (and unwanted, but they come from the factory that way, features) with a then 5 year old (original) battery, was left standing during the winter of 2007-2008 for over 3 months. Upon returning, in March (still winter here until at least mid May), it started instantly as soon as I got back from the airport and went for groceries. Same battery still working this winter. Vehicle is moderately driven; 95,000+ Kilometres (about 8000 miles per year). Obviously our 2002 Nissan is 'listening' all the time because the key fob can activate the door locks, from a considerable distance any time day or night. Come to think of it, haven't replaced the batteries in either of the two key fobs since vehicle purchase in 2002 either.

Yes prolly a lot better;)

So when did they deteriorate then?..

Bullshit that .. Unless she has a very old battery and hardly used the car at all so it wasn't charged anyway. This shouldn't happen these days with a battery in decent nick..

For that matter went to start a large genny the other day hasn't been used for 3 months or more, took around a minute or so to wind it all up which it did .. and that battery is around 3 years old...

Modern Fords ( and ford derived designs, like Land Rover ) use a SmartCharge system , and they use Silver Calcium batteries.

You must replace them with Silver Calcium batteries, not regular Lead Acid.

The Toyota main dealer assures us (of course we have only their word for it) that they made all the appropriate checks to see if anything could have been damaging the battery; nothing was found. The fact that one of the three batteries wasn't right *from new* (although it was only replaced when it became unusable - not holding a charge even for 24 hours) also makes me think that the car itself isn't responsible.

Now the battery is no longer covered under warranty we've given up on the Toyota branded ones and fitted a Varta. Time will tell whether this fixes the problem or not.

Richard.

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But for the pedants among us, a Silver Calcium battery is actually still basically a lead acid, but with some extra bits.

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 02:25:52 +0000, "Clive George" wibbled:

What are the extra bits for?

any challenge"

Sounds like it never needs charging then!

being

All the gismos flatten the battery, car batteries really don't like long slow discharges, particularly if they are bit old. 50AHr battery

10mA drain 208 days to theoretical absolutely flat, far shorter in reality when you take into account even the very low seld discharge of lead acid and have the thing start the motor.

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