Alternatives to Jelly Crimps?

In article , Andrew Mawson writes

Are you sure it's a good idea running phone service and data over the same cable?

Also, you are aware this will restrict you to 100Mbps ethernet, gigabit won't work over only two pairs?

I wouldn't advocate it in a highly focussed commercial environment, but

AWEM

I don't think there will be any serious problems. Bothe signals are fairly robust. Ringing might screw the data up when it's present just beacuse it's a large signal quite close but otherwise the frequencies used by POTS and 10/100Mbps data don't overlap and the circuits are all balanced.

I wouldn't have delved into the back of the patch panel to break things out but either made up spliter leads to plug into the front or wired spare sockets to do the same and just patched across.

I would have used rj45 splitters on the patch panels so that the wiring was unchanged.

Its also possible to wire a second patch panel below the first and split the cables but its error prone so I wouldn't do it.

I would have used splitters plugged into the front of patch panels, rather than tampering with the structured cabling behind. You can get splitters to feed two 10/100Mbits/s down a 4-pair Cat5, or a network and a phone.

Catch with non-IDC connectors on solid core data cable is potential to put a nick in it whilst stripping it, creating a weakness that snaps sometime after....

Cheers Adam

In article , Dave Liquorice writes

OK. When the EIA/TIA 568B spec was drawn up, the blue pair was originally intended for phone/voice, but that was back in the days of

The idea was that desktops in commercial environments could have voice and data delivered over one cable. Of course, VOIP and internet telephony has made that idea obsolete.

In article , Adam Aglionby writes

Jelly crimps are IDC.

The link Andrew gave was cheap - 100 for a fiver. I'd never use up that many, though.

Indeed, but the O.P. asked

". For future use are there miniature tubular crimps like the sort you might use on car wiring, but much smaller (24awg) ? "

Which would require stripping the cable, with attendant risk, just don`t get me started on aluminium cored data cables.

Similar problem with stripping solid core data cables to solder on to face plate connectors, it only takes a little bit of vibration sometimes months down the line.

Cheers Adam

Solder and shrink-wrap?

Space and cost precluded that - the splitters are quite pricey (needed 6) and the box lid of the patch panel wouldn't take the 'front bulk'

AWEM

I used 48 in this job alone

AWEM

Considered and rejected as with my 2D eyesight I'd be burning the wrong things too often - hard enough poking two wires in a jelly crimp

AWEM

You can get them to fit in-line with three cables.

You might need to make patch cords as they are generally fully wired in parallel. However for one data and one phone per line you would probably just need a RJ45 to phone and a normal patch cord.

About £6 per line.