I had the relatively rare pleasure of taking my car out on country roads. I am considering an electric vehicle and I wondered if you can throw around an EV in the same way as a very old petrol driven vehicle (2008 Micra).
Are the following tasks more difficult in an EV than in a 'real' car?
Hillstart (no clutch control)
Extra acceleration (cannot drop a gear)
Manoeuvring in a parking space
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Bob Eager
I have a full hybrid that decides when it wants to be an EV, but:
It has automatic handling of the handbrake; holds it for a few seconds and you can just pull away (had this on a few IC cars too).
The electric is what makes it accelerate!
No real problems, although control isn't as smooth (at that speed it's all electric)
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alan_m
Many modern ICE cars have a hill start mode which holds the brakes on until you pull away, without your foot being on the brake peddle. I'm not an EV driver but assume an EV would have a similar facility.
Hasn't an EV typically got a better acceleration than many ICE vehicles?
I've never seen a EV in a parking space so EV drivers must avoid them :) I'm sure that an EV can manage traditional steering and slow speeds.
I regularly travel to a rural area. The main problem would be the lack of public charging points. OK if you live in the area and have home charging but not too good if you end up there after a long journey and the nearest charging point is 10 miles away, and when you get there find the single charging point is occupied with the car driver not to be seen.
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Roger Mills
Hill starts are a doddle because the car will hold the brakes on until you press the throttle to start moving
Max torque is available over the entire speed range, so not being able to drop a gear isn't a problem. This is particularly noticeable at very low speeds. In the "traffic lights grand-prix" you can easily leave boy racers in ICE cars standing with very little effort.
Many electric cars are capable of parking themselves in a parking space, with no input from the driver. Even if parking manually, you just allow it to creep on zero throttle, steering, and braking as necessary - as with any car with an automatic transmission.
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Andy Burns
Short story long ...
My previous two petrol/diesel cars had "hold assist", current plugin hybrid has it too[2] and usually it's fine, but occasionally it's not quite as re-assuring as the old cars ...
e.g. if you come to a halt with a front wheel in a shallow pothole/puddle, it can make it awkward to move off, you can't just give it a little bit more, it requires quite a lot more before it wants to move, somewhat worrying if there's a parked car just a foot in front of you ...
Normally it can take-off pretty rapidly when you want, but in this situation will it misinterpret just a bit more accelerator as flooring it? Are you going to have to jump[3] on the brake to avoid ramming the car in front? After 2-3 attempts to gently pull forwards out of the pothole, I decided to reverse a little instead of risking it ...
I probably could have applied the handbrake manually and it might have dealt with it better? But usually I only apply the handbrake at the end of a journey by switching the car off, never touch it mid-journey ...
So it didn't actually do anything wrong, but it did leave me a little uncertain how it was going to react if I poked the accelerator just that little bit more to get it to actually pull away. Having reversed and pulled forward, I parked OK, when I got out and looked at the "mountainous pothole" causing this issue it turned out to be less than
3/4" >-O
@Bob ... Did you say your Ford has a re-badged Toyota drivetrain? Does it have the same Toyota gearstump and hold buttons? Would it handle such minor potholes the same or better?
[1] It has two modes, default is that when "in gear" it will start to creep forward (or backwards) as soon as you take your foot off the brake, and that was the mode I was in for the above pothole situation ...
The other mode is where it applies a virtual[2] handbrake the instant you come to a halt, and removes it as soon as you touch the accelerator, maybe in that mode it would handle the pothole better, I didn't it try at the time.
[2] and if you sit there for longer that it deems is good, it'll apply the real handbrake instead; my previous cars did that too, but after about 10 minutes when the ABS pump got too warm, the hybrid does it in less than a minute.
[3] the radar collision avoidance would probably step in and shove your nose into the windscreen to avoid that, but I didn't want to multiply the uncertainty in this situation.
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David Wade
I have a 2025 VW id.5 Match Pro. Its a bit more SUVesk than the Micra but yes you can throw it around. However I don't do that often as it makes my wifes guide dog sick.
its a real car. Remember though all cars are different. I can only comment on mine. I will say its not as nice as in some ways as my Mercedes C220 estate.
No, its the same as my previous ICE cars, a Merc C220 estate and VW Tiguan, both of which had DSG auto gearboxes. So press the footbrake hard and it holds. Press the accelerator and it moves off.
You don't need to. It does 0-60 in 6.4 seconds in. That is about the same as the original E-Type Jaguar. If you want quicker there is a GTX version with 4-wheel drive that does it in 5.2 seconds. This is among the quicker EVs but they tend to be faster from a standing start than a traditional car and many drivers find them a bit hairy.
It parks itself. If you don´t trust it, there is a reversing camera.
other points.
Hilly Terain does not usually reduce the range. What goes up must come down. It uses regenerative braking on the down hill to re-charge the batteries
The AirCon and heater/demister both run of the high voltage battery, so you can pre-heat or pre-cool the car without needing to re-charge the battery.
Dave
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Andy Burns
Agreed ... my Toyota is perfectly fine, except it isn't an Audi which I'm driven for 20 out of the last 30 years.
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Bob Eager
No, quite different in that respect. There is no gear lever as such; it's a PRNDL dial! No hold buttons.
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