It appears they have cut all XP users off from even the old updates ... I had to reinstall XP Pro in one of my laptops , and have been unable to get the updates they used to have from before they dropped support . Is this yet another move to force us to use their latest crap OS ? Is there anywhere else these updates can be gotten ?
Really ? I knew there were no NEW updates , but until recently all the existing updates were available . Take a class in reading comprehension , you obviously did not understand what I wrote .
What part of "No longer supported" are you not understanding, why should the spend storage resources and bandwidth costs so you can hang on to an antique?
Support has officially ended for XP. That means: no NEW patches and OLD patches are available only at *their* convenience.
Yes, you should have been maintaining your own *personal* copy of the updates, drivers, etc. I copy the entire support page for each of my computers onto "local media" so I can have access to those files after the vendor decides to render them obsolete.
Do you expect your laptop vendor to keep those files available "indefinitely"?
"I want to reinstall W95 on one of my antiques -- cuz it won't run 10. Where are the files??"
You can update to Vista or 7even (or even 8/8.1) -- if you don't like 10.
Depends on which updates you mean. You can usually find the *required* updates but may be SoL for the various "suggested" updates (including any drivers that they pushed on behalf of kit vendors). You may also have trouble finding descriptions of what all of the various updates "do".
[I keep a log of the updates that I install so, at least, I have the "brief synopsis" that MS provides on the update page(s). And, notes (to myself) as to why I chose NOT to install certain updates...]
They should still be available, even though XP is no longer supported, the existing updates should still be available. I turned on my XP machine recently and got one.
With Win7 there has been a huge slowdown so that might be the case with XP as well.
Best you can do is turn on auto-update if it's not on already and let the machine sit there for at least six or eight hours.
BTW: The WSoff-line update utility fetches them right away though
It appears they have cut all XP users off from even the old updates ... I had to reinstall XP Pro in one of my laptops , and have been unable to get the updates they used to have from before they dropped support . Is this yet another move to force us to use their latest crap OS ? Is there anywhere else these updates can be gotten ?
Did you get what you needed? I'm pretty sure I've got the SP3 download still on the machine here (and yes, I'm still on XP, too, with no plans to change to any newer MS OS--when this machine finally dies, I'll go either Mac or a --ix flavor instead). If you didn't find it, post back and I'll do some more serious searching...
I do have SP3 , there were some other security updates that I probably need ... or not , is anybody still targeting XP with virii ? Though as I understand the virus world , they will compromise ANY OS they can infect . I never claimed to be any kind of a computer guru , I learned what I need to know to keep the machines I have running and virus-free . I'm a much better machinist than computer tech ....
My understanding of MSFTs product lifecycle is the same as yours. When then stop supporting an OS, that doesn't mean that you can't still get all the existing updates, right up to the final one. It just means they are not issuing any further *new* updates.
I don't remember how updates worked in XP, but thought it was the same as it is now, ie via an update manager that is part of Windows. If you go into Windows, probably through control panel and tell it to check for updates, what happens?
It's interesting that you have this problem. Last Fall I went through hell with Win 7. I did a fresh restore to as shipped on a 4 year old PC. It all went fine, then it started doing updates. That went fine for a bit, until it put on a new version of the update manager. From then on, it would not continue updating. It tried, but the wheels just spun. Googling I found that a lot of people were having that problem, with no resolution or help from MSFT. Some had the exact same thing, ie started with a clean install, soon as it put on that new update manager, no more updates. I finally figured out a solution. I searched and found a later version of the update agent. So, I downloaded and manually installed that and the it resumed doing the updates, all the way to present.
I don't know why anyone would need to buy Windows updates. They are available for free from MSFT, always have been. AFAIK, with all the products, when they discontinue support it just means now new updates and fixes. All the existing ones, right up until the last one are still supposed to be available. Here MSFT says that is indeed the case for XP.
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Will existing updates still be available via Windows Update after April 8, 2014?
Yes, all existing Windows XP updates and fixes will still be available via Windows Update and WSUS.
When I try to update via WU , it tells me my browser is out of date - running a new install of IE8 ... wsus is downloading them right now for offline install . Don Y - I guess this will be my archive of updates .
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