Does anyone know know how to weld aluminum? I went to a tour of the Rocket Center in HSV, AL and they pointed out that the aluminium joints were welded by a special process developed by NASA.
Does anyone know how to do this cheaply and at home. I tried, but the heat melted too much and the Al beaded up.
Nobody knows how to weld aluminum, especially since there's absolutely no
information available on the net, or on Youtube.
Just keep wasting your time posting on Usenet in an attempt to find someone
to explain how to do it.
On Monday, July 1, 2013 10:49:00 AM UTC-4, Deodiaus wrote:
et Center in HSV, AL and they pointed out that the aluminium joints were we
lded by a special process developed by NASA.
at melted too much and the Al beaded up.
These have been around for a while. I have not had occasion to try them bu
t they seem to be popular.
I suspect the results are not super strong and certainly not very heat resi
stant but if it's a non-critical application it might be worth a try.
An inert gas wire welder is the proper way but not many diy'ers have one of
those at their disposal. I've had fairly decent results going to welding
shops. If you have the work ready to weld, any grinding and fitting finish
ed, the cost should be reasonable.
I welded aluminum while in the Navy using oxyacetylene. Because aluminum
does not get red when heating, you have to find another way to tell when
it is ready for welding.
Using just the acetylene, paint the area with black soot. Then add the
oxygen and heat the sooted area. When the soot disappears, the aluminum
is ready. Once the weld is started, continue on as the heat travelsYou
have to be quick. You don't have a big window before the aluminum melts
Bill - Metalsmith 2nd (E5), USN
In Hamptonburgh, NY
On Monday, July 1, 2013 9:49:00 AM UTC-5, Deodiaus wrote:
Great suggestions, thanks a lot. I had Googled it, but I did not want to buy any tools as this is a really small job.
The reason I asked here is that I was thinking of doing this on the cheap (minimal costs).
I saw a demonstration of how to weld or braze aluminum with some 'special'
rods and a hand held torch. He said the main thing is there is about a 200
degree differance in melting the rod and the aluminum. You have to be very
careful with the heat. He made it look easy as he put two aluminum cans
Here is a youtube example.
I would think brazing would be a lot easier - you don't melt the base
Steel melts through a range of temperatures. That is because steel is a
mixture of carbon and iron and often other metals. You can be melting it
and it still has some strength.
I don't think that happens with aluminum. When it melts it can suddenly
run or sag. High thermal conductivity may make the problem worse.
I think those rods are really brazing and not welding. From what I get out
of the vidio I don't think the aluminum actually melts in that process. As
I mentioned from the demonstration I saw a few years back the guy said there
was very little differance in the temperature the rod melted and the
aluminum melted so you had to be careful. He was good as he stuck aluminum
cans together in 4 places each about 1/4 to 1/2 of an inch long and you
could not seperate them by breaking the 'weld'.
I don't know much about welding or brazing. I do a lot of electronic
soldering and a little pipe soldering.
As I understand it, there is a differant definition for the three processes.
When people that know as little or even less than I do, sometimes the terms
are not used correctly.
You are probably correct in the brazing term in this case.
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 11:27:24 AM UTC-4, Deodiaus wrote:
buy any tools as this is a really small job.
So what did you think you were going to weld the aluminum with, if not tool
Welding aluminum is not something you can MacGuyver. If it were you would h
ave found that information on google.
Cheapest way is to find a mechanical way to join the aluminum. Screws or ri
vets. Next cheapest is to take the project to a professional welder. After
that you're buying tools.
For a small one-time job even if the professional is egregiously expensive,
he'll still be a lot cheaper than buying a MiG welder and a spool gun and
wasting weeks learning how to properly weld aluminum. Ask around. You may k
now someone who knows someone who is a professional welder that can do it f
or you as a favor if it's a really minor job.
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:14:18 AM UTC-5, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Ok, here is my MacGuyver solution.
I am repairing an alumninum pool pole.
I need a magnesium sparkler, some wet clay, and an Al can cut into a long thin strip.
Put the clay on the backside and around the work to serve as a heat sink and also to prevent the melted Al from running away.
Light the sparkler. Mg burns at a hot flame and should be sufficient to melt Al.
Work as provided on the youtube vid
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