I convinced myself yesterday that I have the ability to rebuild my toilets
from the wax ring up. I replaced some of tank parts in the past at my first
house, but never have progressed to taking the tank off of the bowl. The
only things that scare me are the two bolts on the tank/bowl and replacing
of the wax ring and bolts on the floor. The bolts on the floor really
bother me because I don't know how they are attached to the floor and they
are probably severly rusted. Hopefully I'll get over these fears once I've
been able to get everyone out of the house for a few hours. My plan is to
work on only one toilet at a time, taking each one entirely apart, laying
out all of the parts on the floor on a plastic bag, then figuring out what
parts & sizes I need and then putting it back together.
The toilets are American Standard and are 19 years old. Aside from the
flappers, I am sure everything is original. It is black city in the tank
from the decay of rubber parts. I need some advice on some brand names
which hold up. I see that the big box hardware stores sell many different
brands and types, ranging from in expensive to moderately expensive. The
big box store is an easy way to go, but I wanted to get some comments on
which parts/companies to avoid. Or maybe I should just avoid the big box
stores and purchase the parts somewhere else. Any advice would be
Sounds like OCD. Why remove the tank? You may be asking for trouble.
And, unless the wax ring is leaking or the bowl wobbly, I would leave
that alone too.
As to how the bolts are attached to the floor, there are many
Ages ago, gimlet screws were run directly into the wooden flooring.
Later, cast iron flanges were in use with brass TEE bolts.
But, you might find brass flanges with 1/4-20 tapped holes
and brass threaded rod screwed in.
And lead bends with soldered brass flanges.
Or, brass flanges and TEE bolts.
Or, PVC/ABS flanges with or without steel rings and TEE bolts.
This stuff can get tricky and, yes, stuff routinely breaks and
then you're SOL. If you go ahead, have a helpful hardware store
nearby ( as opposed to Big Box).
No one could every convince me that the 1.6 gallon toilets are as good as
the old ones. It has always blown my mind that we have a law restricting
the amount of water toilets use, but at the same time I see alot of waste of
resources everytime I leave the house. Besides, why throw away a perfectly
good toilet? I guess I could put them on ebay...LOL. I figure the insides
won't run me more than $30 for each one, so I probably will go the route of
replacing the working parts. I think though I am going to leave the wax
Newest of them are bunches better than they were 5yrs ago. Supposedly save
the average home near 10gallons per person per day - that's 300 gallons per
month. ($11 month here) They say 1.6g toilets originally received dual
flushes 20% of the time and today's newest batch of 1.6g toilets surveyed
people says dual flushed about once per month.
Go ahead, get an American Standard Cadet.
But when you're putting tank on, stop. Put metal washer,
then rubber washer onto the bolt, put it in from the inside
of the tank. Then, on the underside of the tank, another
rubber washer, then metal washer, then snug them up
with the thin nut. Do this way in both holes. Put the flapper
in, and the fill valve. Now you could put water in the tank,
and it shouldn't leak out.
For some reason, some installers put the bolt through to the
lower portion and snug it up, and run a big risk of breaking the
tank, or having a leak later at the bolts. Do it right the first time.
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