On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:23:30 -0700, James \\"Cubby\\" Culbertson wrote:
Yes, there should be some air space, don't recall the exact amount but a foot
or so as you say. My bet would be drainfield problems, either a clog in the
line, or clogged soil in the field - can't imagine a 12 year old system that
has the field freeze with temps you mentioned earlier, municipality wouldn't
pass inspection on such a field.
Bad timing sure enough - need to get someone out to figure out exactly what's
You may have taken the best of care of the system since you've had it -
doesn't mean the previous owners did...
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:23:30 -0700, "James \\"Cubby\\" Culbertson"
You think you have trouble. There is no city sewage at the North Pole
either. And when Santa had to replace his drain field, they had to
dig through 32 feet of ice. Plus the shipping charges for the drain
tiles are enormous. He tried to get the elves to make them, but they
said they had toys to make and they called a wildcat strike. Then
PETA objected to their striking the wildcat, and that caused further
If you have children, they should be able to learn a lesson from this.
Remove NOPSAM to email me. Please let
me know if you have posted also.
"So what do I do? I suppose I
need to call someone out to confirm my diagnosis and I suppose it'll
into digging up the yard to put in new drain lines. What a mess and
week from Christmas.....
Calling in some pros is the next step. After figuring out what needs
to be done, if it turns out it's major and you need to put this off for
awhile, you may be able to get by till spring if you have it pumped now
and keep water usage to a minimum.
Do you have a leach field or a leaching pit?
If you have a field locate the distribution box. I have seen the covers cave
in blocking flow. Regardless finding the box will tell you if the field is
plugged (expensive fix) or if the line to the distribution box is plugged.
All this should be less than 2' below grade.
It's a field. And the box would be more than 2' deep. The septic is at
around 3' down and the distribution lines angle down from there. I had it
pumped today. The guy that came out seemed pretty knowledgeable and he
seemed to think it was fine. We did use the washer a fair amount on Sat.
and he thinks it was just overwhelmed for the few hours it started to back
up. Otherwise, it's going to cost a fortune and all my landscaping will go
to hell. I'm hoping he's right...
One of my favorite movie lines
"....Never underestimate the power of denial..."
Recognize it? Know the movie?
Remember - the pumper guy gets paid for pumping.
Does he fix septic systems? Probabaly not.
If you fix it, you won't need him every 6 months...
try to find the dist box. - do you have any idea where it is? Perhaps
you should look after it warms a bit...
Actually they do fix the systems. And install them. I'm gonna give this a
go and see what happens. No point digging up the yard if it's alright
As for the dist. box, haven't a clue where it is other than I know which
direction the drain lines run out at. Not even sure there is a dist. box.
He did recommend that I re-route the drain off the washer into a pit
elsewhere. I will have to see what code says about that before doing
anything although he did say the newer houses going up, had them installed
this way. Interesting.
Often the limiting factor of how much water can be wasted is the type
the soil. Remember the water has to "pass through" the soil to be
distributed evenly. I've also seen rock around the pipe crusted up and
preventing the water to seep to the soil. If it were mine, I'd find
the ends of the line, using a probing rod, to follow the gravel to the
end. Dig up the end and see if water is coming through. If it is the
lines are clear, if it isn't there is a blockage somewhere. Depending
on the circumstances a high water bypass can be made, find the furthest
low point in the line and dig a hole and fill it with sand and gravel,
the water should surface in that area, obviously it would be best if
this is not in the front yard by a kids bus stop, or the neighbor's
greenhouse etc. Not a good deal according to most people but a lot
better then having sewage back up in the house. Another thing to check
is the outflow baffle in the septic tank, it must be in place and the
water in the tank at the proper level for it to work properly, the
purpose of the baffle is to keep solids out of the distribution lines.
If you have high clay soil more distribution line may be needed or less
water usage. When everything is working properly and properly sized
for the incoming load a tank shouldn't need to be pumped.
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