Semi-OT: Went to an auction

I don't recall ever commenting on the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

As to the vote totals: House:

80% of the Republicans supported the bill while only 61% of the Democrats did

Senate: Cloture: 82% of the Republicans and 66% of the Democrats Final passage: 82% of the Republicans and 69% of the Democrats. Only 46 Democrats (out of 67) voted for the bill. Twenty-three (out of 31) Republicans voted for it.

Were it not for the Republicans, the 1964 Civil Rights Act would not have passed, and, while not unanimous, Republican support for the bill was significantly stronger than that of the Democrats.

Plus, I don't think there WERE any Republicans in the South in 1964. Goldwater carried the South in 1964, but he didn't get elected. I was an Administrative Aide to John Tower and he was elected in 1966.

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and he still wouldn't have been spared because Vespasian "liked" him

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Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

Sure, but I was just being cynical about the "incredible story" claimed to be authored by heybub...

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George

I was being cynical about his claims that he didn't embellish

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Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

She divorced me. Said I was too much of a wuss; it was no fun abusing me. Last I heard, she fell for a Latin dance instructor with a pencil-thin mustache named "Gomez."

Going on...

You may remember Isaac Asimov. He wrote over 500 books on everything from college chemistry texts to "Asimov's Guide to the Holy Bible" (2 volumes), "Asimov's Guide to Shakespeare" and "Asimov's Guide to Greek and Roman Mythology." If one had to list the top ten books of all time in Science Fiction, most would agree that Asimov would have two: "The Foundation Series" and "I, Robot."

Who could put up with such a brilliant and eccentric soul? Well, his wife was a psychiatrist, which probably helped in marital harmony.

I'm certainly not in the same league as Asimov, but my current squeeze is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, an adjunct professor, and is the intake clinician at a psychiatric hospital.

We get along SWELL! Every time I rush in with my latest brainstorm, she says "And how do you fell about that?" This is often followed by: a) "I see. Very interesting. Tell me more." or b) "Let's talk about your mother."

Trust me on this: Her reactions are far superior to being hit in the face with a frying pan.

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HeyBub

I take that as a compliment. Thank you.

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HeyBub

I was always under the same mistaken impression, mostly by the logical inference from the so-called "Southern Strategy" and how the Republican party made gains in the south. It's a question of timing. It's easy to forget the former Republican strength in the north, and that the party was loaded with moderates and "liberals." What's really funny is how the current crop of Republicans worships Ronald Reagan. He was a flaming "liberal" compared to them.

I'm surprised you fell into this with your background. Fact-checking is easy. I don't trust either side to tell the truth.

--Vic

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Vic Smith

To my mind that would be four books - a trilogy plus one. But that's a quibble. It also depends on the Top SF Books list you look at. Asimov has 7 of the top 50 SF books. There are 6 books on the list from the 1800's.

I started reading the prequel trilogy to Foundation - one book written by each of the Killer B's (Benford, Baer & Brin). I have yet to read the third one.

It's mind-boggling that Foundation hasn't been made into a movie franchise yet. The stuff has been optioned and some mucking about with development, but nothing recently.

Here's a good SF flow chart to help people figure out what books to read.

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He worked like a dog, sat down at his typewriter and wrote for eight hours a day. He didn't muck about waiting for inspiration. He was a veritable font of knowledge on almost every known front, a phenomenal story teller and a great public speaker, had a great sense of humor (a dirty one), and if you could get past his looks anyone would fall in love with him. Read his autobiography if you haven't. Good stuff. I have an autographed copy. No, I won't lend it to you.

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RicodJour

Glad this marked OT. I was a sci-fi fan for some years. Excepting Asimov and Heinlen, all anthologies of short stories and novelettes. Since you're a "real" fan, I'm curious about your favorite sci-fi movies. Good movies are often overlooked, but still available on Netflix. Maybe you can put me onto to something. My favorites so far are 2001 and Blade Runner, which both had some depth.

--Vic

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Vic Smith

Inasmuch as I always act pro se, I take that, too, as a compliment. Thank you ever so much. Again.

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HeyBub

You're welcome. I've complimented you before on your wide range of knowledge and your ability to debate withOUT Tysoning someone's ear off. Don't let it go to your head. (-: As for pro se victories, I won a five thousand dollar case as a pro se litigant against a female attorney in Virginia. As a bonus, the judge seriously dressed her down for holding my business papers illegally as ransom for an alleged unpaid bill her accountant clients wanted paid. When she refused to return my stuff, I filed a subpoena duces tecum to recover them, sending the sheriff to her office during a client meeting! Back then a writ like that only cost 15 bucks to file. The judge found the accountants behavior so outrageous, he not only cancelled the bill, but ordered them to refund monies already paid to them by me. You don't win contracts cases any better than that.

The attorney walked out of the courtroom with a look on her face that women only make when submitting to "bung bung." Some things are just priceless. This was shortly after my sister became a rug rat judge (juvenile court master) and I wanted to prove to my parents (and myself) that I could have been a lawyer, too - if I wanted to spend my life being bored to death. Cross-examining yourself on the stand requires a dual personality, which fortunately I have.

A few years later I won $14,000 from an attorney who tried to raise his rates on a case unilaterally. Fortunately I had preserved the one paragraph yellow lined paper retainer agreement in his own hand we had signed limiting his rates to what he charged me just out of law school ($20 per hour). The case dragged on for five years and by that time he was a successful attorney charging $120+ an hour. I didn't even have to go to court or the bar association because he would have been mortified revealing what a low rate he once accepted. He just grunted and recalculated the bill at the old rate. Three years later little Stevie H. Esq got disbarred for six months for co-mingling his clients funds with his own. I remember calling his office and getting an answering service that indicated his partner now wanted nothing to do with him. Ah, the law.

-- Bobby G.

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Robert Green

You consider that a win? From the cheap seats it sounds like you took advantage of a newb. Obviously, there's more to the story. Less obviously, I'm not asking for it. ;)

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I still remember the things I got wrong on tests from the sixth grade. I did not know, then, what "superficial" meant. I got a 780 on my verbal GRE because I missed "homologous" and confused "mendacious" with "mendicant." I also screwed up and missed a perfect score in my Journalism final in news reporting by confusing "miscegenation" with "misogyny." I seriously disappointed my HS AP biology teacher who expected me to get 100 on the NY State AP test but I got "mitosis" and "meiosis" confused along with three other fairly simple questions.

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Higgs Boson

I had a "good" lawyer when I divorced. Real nice guy. Seriously. I liked him. A relaxed, laid back guy. Ex-cop. My ex had a "bad" lawyer. Real prick ball of nerves. You can guess how that worked out.

--Vic

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Vic Smith

As Professor Frink said on episode "I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot" or "I, D'oh!-Bot" of the Simpsons: "Some of them not so good!"

I supposed I'd have to agree with the last but I remember more of the former than the later. Staten Island named a street Trantor Pl. and driving past it weekly always gave me a "Foundation" flashback - I recall the Mule, Hari Seldon (could be from I, Robot - the mind is fading) and more and ripping through them as a teen as fast as I could read.

This thread finally got me to open my birthday gift of the entire set of the black and white Outer Limits DVDs. Unexpectedly, watching it gave me goosebumps. For the first time I realized that most of us here have lived through a time where we saw science fiction turn into science fact.

OL's got cheesy FX, but at the time we didn't know any better. Some great actors at the start of their careers who went on to much bigger roles and some for whom their OL role was their last. Beautiful music, B&W cinematography that was motion picture quality and almost always a strong moral theme woven into the storyline. I may have to re-read "Foundation" and home that Tom Wolfe was wrong when he said you can't go home again.

Call us when you've written your 499th book. You've probably written enough Usenet posts to make at least a few dozen very wide-rangind books - soon Kindles will be starving for discount literature. Get on the train early! (-:

Ah, you mean she's a professional, trained to deal with walking insanity. A perfect match. (-:

My wife's a logistician and keeps my hoarding behavior in check. That's partially because as an Army brat, she moved so often she was conditioned to live with few person possessions. The less you own, the less you have to schelp around. I get to fill up the leftover space but the week, I'm on track to fill up three 40 gallon trash and recyling carts because I've starting spilling over into no-man's land. Quite literally!

Back to the cull. Who hoards old medicine bottles? C'mon - confess!!!!

-- Bobby G.

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As Han said about the medical free market myth, picking a good lawyer is hard for a layman. How do you evaluate the skill of someone who's had years of advanced training and education?

We had one lawyer at one of the big firms I worked for that was brilliant - but completely lacking people skills. He spent his spare time suing the President, the Vatican and anyone else whom he thought had acted badly and "needing suing." (-: They kept him around as a junk yard dog to strike terror into opposing counsel. It turned out to be very useful to have a controlled madman on staff. I had a situation where I paid him $50 to make one three minute phone call for me. Money well spent. He talked twice as fast as most people, which I came to realize really puts the other side at a disadvantage. Peter was perhaps as good as an drill sergeant in "reading the riot act" to someone and having them take serious notice.

I had to choose my lawyer Stevie well ahead of my legal PC support career at age 20 something and I basically had to bottom feed. Find someone hungry enough to work for a low hourly rate because you can bet in a five year case, there are going to be some serious cha-chings. Most people have no idea how to select a lawyer and either rely on referrals from friends or blind choosing on the internet or Yellow Page (does anyone still use them?) Neither did I at that point. I picked one, by luck, good enough to win my case but not much better. (-:

Lots of cops get into law when they see how little criminal attorneys do and how much they earn, shearing panicked people charged with a serious crime. I've even heard lawyers say what cops say: "A law degree is a license to steal."

The guy I mentioned that was arrested and advised to plead guilty in the other message was a teacher in VA. Completely exonerated, the little liar that accused him kept changing her story until she finally confessed she just didn't like him.

He lost his house, his job, his income, his standing in the community. I don't want to embarrass him further, but the charges and the case (the lead detective, a woman, NEVER interviewed the kid, IIRC and relied on hearsay testimony to charge him). You can be minding your own fu&ing business and have some little teenager use the legal system to take everything you have from you, without even a "sorry" from the cops/commonwealth atty.

So that's why when people are arrested, they panic and sign retainers for $100's of thousands without thinking very hard or "shopping critically" for the best lawyer. I know of plenty of cases where they acquire that lawyer only *after* they fire the first. Fortunately some judges (probably not ones that were lawyers) are ruling more and that a $100,000 retainer/contract where they've done only a few hours of work during an arraignment is unconscionable and instead pay them for the hours worked, especially if they were terminated by the client for good reason like missing a hearing or a filing date. .

-- Bobby G.

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