Relocating from flood

You don?t see it with just the warmer areas of Texas either.

And you deleted from the quoting the problem with Mexico and Germany too.

On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 23:08:52 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to digest...

Reminds me of Ike & Tina Turner ~~~ rollin down the river~~~~~~

On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 14:57:17 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com posted for all of us to digest...

Ya can't fix stupid. Do you expect drivers to have life jackets when they don't even have car seats for kids? When they drive past a sign that says area subject to flooding and get stuck? They wouldn't even know how to don a life jacket.

On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 16:04:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to digest...

Sandy hit..

On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 21:12:27 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...

How do you all this stuff?

One assumes you left out the word 'know' in the above sentence.

Of course, sea level was 400 feet lower at the height of the ice age (there were periods when one could walk from europe to the UK). Imagine walking from cairo to rome in a straight line without getting wet.

And it took more than four thousand years for enough ice to melt to raise the ocean sufficently to flood Doggerland.

The remaining ice on greenland and the south polar ice cap has been relatively stable for the last couple of thousand years, until the very recent (and unprecedented) doubling of atmospheric CO2 from sources sequestered for the last hundred million years which is causing it to melt at rates unprecendented in thousands of years.

Which stuff?

The Doggerland area was under ice during the Last Glacial Maximum, was populated at people headed north from the refugia, and then submerged again. Cycles come and go.

I live at the bottom of a lake. The valley floor is around 3000'. At it's prime, Glacial Lake Missoula's shoreline was at 4200'. Several of the trails have markers at the 4200' level. Today it's a scenic view.

The only thing that is endangered is our lifestyle and perhaps our overpopulation but this is mostly going to be a real estate problem in the foreseeable future. The only question is whether costal areas will try to dredge and fill their way out of sea rise or just walk away Miami is already doing that but not because of sea rise but because the city is built on muck and it's sinking. New Orleans has the same problem. Miami is just trucking in dirt and filling in. The streets are already higher. They are jacking up buildings now.. I bet Surfside is a bunch of castles on a hill when they get built back. Maybe not. People are stupid ... and cheap.

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 19:58:01 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...

All these songs & topics? I feel like a kindergarten kid.

On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 00:03:53 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com posted for all of us to digest...

They could rebuild with the best of everything but if it's not maintained...

I doubt the original builders planned for it to be there 40 years. These things tend to get torn down and replaced by bigger buildings. The City of Surfside has zoning in place that makes that less attractive. (height restrictions and impact fees for starters).

On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:07:41 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com posted for all of us to digest...

I think that would be counterintuitive for tax purposes.

Some of these Florida cities are so against development, they will forgo tax revenue. They make it up on impact fees they charge developers who are willing to build. It is so bad here that a neighbor left a small part of his house standing, paid a house mover to lift it 4 feet to get above FEMA and "remodeled" those 4 walls into a giant house, just to avoid the impact fees from building a new house. I doubt any of the original house is still there now but it was enough to get by the impact fee.

Sounds about like what a restraunt in the town I live did. They left the old one, built a new and larger one around it and then threw the old one out the doors and windows.

Our county has an ordanance about mobile homes in some areas. However a modular home (which is the same thing but does not have a VIN tag) can be put in the same place.

Near where I worked in PA, one company bought a house. It still stand but the addition to it is a 50,000 sq. ft. factory and warehouse.

From an inspection standpoint I can say a "HUD certified" manufactured home meets far stricter standards than an "RV certified" mobile home.

An RV doesn't even have to comply with the NEC and there are no wind code standards. Practicalities say they are good for around 80-90 because they are on the road but the wind code here is 150.

On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 15:07:06 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com posted for all of us to digest...

That is an undertaking I can't imagine. Those fees must be horrendous.

I didn't get it but he had a long explanation involving impact fees permit signoffs and other red tape that made spending the $15k to lift part of the house attractive. I will say remodel permits are cheap and easy here. I still needed engineering but I ended up doing that myself too. The engineer I hired couldn't get his plans through plan review and he ended up submitting mine, under his seal.