I quit using weed killer after barefoot grass killed all my rubarb:( Then I thought about the birds and rabbits and havent used any in at least 20 years, I think dandelions are pretty flowers:)
To kill poision ivy mix poision ivy killer 50 / 50 with roundup, it kills fast but does break some federal laws........
That probably runs down the gutter to the lake. But when the Romans were
putting an end to their enemies' foolishness, they salted their fields. If
they can't grow, they can't eat, and if they can't eat, they can't be a
nuisance to the Romans.
Then you'd best update your info , because glyphosate has been implicated
in CCD . You can bet your sweet ass I won't be using anything that hasn't
been PROVEN safe for bees , there's a pretty big investment sittin' out
there in the orchard .
On Monday, July 14, 2014 8:01:45 PM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
Sure, if by "implicated" you mean that someone has merely put it on a long,
list of possible causes, including other chemicals, viruses, bacteria, etc.
If you mean there is actual data from a study that shows cause and effect,
that I'd like to see....
Did you know that 3/4 of the hives in the USA are in California while the
almond trees are blooming ? Didn't think so . There are beekeepers that
truck their hives all over the country hiring them out as pollinators .
Between varroa mites , tracheal mites , small hive beetles , American foul
brood and other problems it's been estimated we now have less than a third
of the beehives <feral and domesticated> we had 15 years ago .
And as far as CCD , the information I have is that it is PROBABLY a
combination of factors , including glyphosate exposure along with
neonicotinoid insecticides in sub lethal dosages and stress from cold
weather . Nothing is definite , true , but they learn more every day . Now
that we have invested in beekeeping , I'm VERY interested in anything that
can harm Our Ladies of the Hive .
Our go-to guy here was the Arkansas state bee inspector , has been in the
On Monday, July 14, 2014 8:17:30 PM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
I suspect that number is bogus, but I'd be happy to see the source.
And for you to explain how one terrorist crop duster is going to cover the
huge area of California that the bee hives are dispersed in. Plus there
are a hell of a lot of other bees in the USA, besides ones kept in hives.
There are beekeepers that
And I thought glyphosate poisoning was "implicated" as the big problem.
I'd like to see a source for that too.....
Now we're getting closer to the truth. I'd like to see a consensus where
those actually researching CCD say that glyphosate is on that short list.
You posting it is the first that I've heard of it and it sounds suspiciousl
like stuff the hippie GMO crowd comes up with, as opposed to something that
actual bee researchers have said. Link please.
Those referred to on the pesticide label that say, "It is a violation
of federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its
labeling". Since the label doesn't instruct the user to mix it with
another product, it's not being used in the prescribed manner.
This seems like nitpicking to some, but it is (sometimes) deadly
serious. People playing science experiment can mix up some hazardous
combinations. They can also end up killing more than the intended
targets. My favorite from working in the lawn and garden trade was the
idiot owner of the business, who used to just reach behind him to
whatever shelf he was leaning on, grab any bottle, and tell the
customer that it was the solution for whatever problem the customer
had. We'd get the angry phone calls later, after the customer had
applied the weedkiller to their apple tree, or sprayed their vegetable
garden with the systemic insecticide, rendering all the produce
inedible. That's when we'd quote that label directive to them. If they
had only read the label before applying it, they'd have discovered
that the owner was full of shit, and only cared about making a quick
buck. And never, never, take another person's word for what you can
use the product for. If it's not listed on the label, it hasn't been
tested for that purpose, meaning you are gambling - and like those
customers who trusted my boss, you might lose big.
OT for weeds, but not OT for killer. Some infants and
toddlers have died when the well meaning doctor told
them to give a certain dose of Baby Tylenol, and got
it wrong. Pesticides, or pain pills. Read the directions
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