I am trying to reroute my upstairs bathroom pipes away from the exterior wall (actually an enclosed space behind a kneewall). They currently run in an inside (room dividing) wall until they hit the rear wall, behind which is the "crawlspace" open to the rafters and such. The pipes froze once back there, and its a horrible place to work in (mice love it) so I want the pipes out of there. Anyway they turn that corner and then branch in the "crawl space" to the toilet and bathtub. Below this bathroom and crawl space there is a false ceiling, that I would like to run the pipes through instead.
But the only way to do that is to drop them straight down inside that interior wall until they clear the joists below, then running them under those joists above the false ceiling to where they need to go. Going through the joists would be preferable, but I cant see how it can be done-with 16" centers I dont see how to drill through them. But the hardest part of all is just getting the pipes down to where I can see them and work with them. Directly below the wall they are in, there is an extension of that wall into the upper foot and half of the lower level. This forms one "side" that the false ceiling is hung from. Its like they knocked out a wall and left just the upper portion. Does this make any sense? Its hard to describe. But I just cant see how I can get the pipes down through that so they are below joist level, without demolishing part of that wall so I can see wtf I'm doing. Any ideas? I'd sure like to avoid calling a plumber but I may have to...