wrote: > I was hoping there was some sort of sound absorbing material that could be
You could put it in a box lined with acoustical tiles but you'd have to
provide for air supply and heat dissapation with vents or fan.
You could set up posts and drape material around and over them, leaving gaps
at top and bottom.
You could put it in another room and close the room to that room and the
door to the room where you are.
IMO, the Invacare units are not a quiet as some others, especially the
10 liter model. . None are as quiet as a refrigerator if that is what
you are expecting.
Note also, that unit is capable of putting out 10 lpm. Most patients
are on 2 lpm and rare cases to 4 lpm. If you actually need 10 liters
you are in serious trouble.
Check with your supplier and see if they have other units that are less
capacity, but quieter. I like AirSep or Devilbiss.
As for location, if you have a spare room where you can close the door
it makes a big difference. It should be well ventilated though, at
least in summer an open window.
If you are in an area of low humidity you should have a humidifier
bottle too. You fill it with distilled water and the flow bubbles
If you go out a lot with oxygen ask for a conserver unit and home fill
system. A standard D tank is heavy and will last about 4 hours on 2lpm.
With a conserver system you can get a smaller 3000psi tank that will
last about 8 hours. Easier to handle in a carry case with a strap.
They are expensive so many suppliers don't want to give them to you.
The only true quiet systems use liquid oxygen. They are rare these days
as the tank has to be filled every 8 days or so, but they are dead quiet.
They vary considerably in noise level both from manufacturer to manufacturer
and from model to model. I have used two in conjunction with my CPAP thing:
the first was pretty noisy; the second - a Resperonics Everflo - is not,
can't even hear it from 4-6 feet away.
Our bed's headboard abuts a bathroom wall. The machine is in a cabinet on
that wall in the bathroom. I led the supply tube through the common wall to
the CPAP machine. Naturally, the cabinet doors are open for heat
dissapation when the machine is on.
BTW, the prices on these machines vary greatly. The one I now have can be
purchased at prices as low as $600 but my insurance company leases it. The
provider bills them $300/mo, they pay $100/mo. Yes, $100/mo. for a machine
that can be purchased for $600. With a 3 year warranty. MediCare...The
World's Greatest Opportunity to Get Rich.
Sleep apnea has several causes but a preventable one is when people are
so fat that their airways become obstructed and their lungs don't have
room to breath.
Medicare should give these fatties a two year warning to either lose
weight and eliminate the CPAP dependence or pay for the CPAP themselves.
Or maybe we should treat junk foods like cigarettes and tax the hell out
Ah, not really. They cut the payments 24% as of July 1 and will
probably put some of the suppliers out of business. That $100 covers a
machine that can cost up to $3000 for a good one, all the supplies,
portable tanks, service, delivery, and a replacement at 2 AM if your
I know two people in the business and used to work part time for one of
them. When the rates were higher, they made a decent living, but with
present rates they are considering closing. When you bill that $100 you
can also wait a long time to get paid too.
No, that was $100/month for the machine that can be purchased for $600+-.
Yes, it was delivered; I have no tanks; there are no supplies save a filter
that is not user serviceable and which they change annually. I suspect they
are compensated by the manufacturer for any repairs since it has a 36 month
I strongly suspect they would be billing much more for a machine costing
$3000 although I can't imagine one actually being worth that. As far as
cutting payments goes, may we credit Obama's grand scheme - ObamaCare - for
that? I know that it takes $150/month out of MY pocket.
I still say that being paid $100/month for a $600 machine is financial rape.
They get the same amount no matter what is supplied. My wife has a
$2000 concentrator, $1500 fill system, portable tanks 3000psi, $1500+
conserver system and the suppler bill $124 a month. He may make out on
yours, but he gets the same on every other system. Not nearly as
lucrative as you perceive.
Insurance companies don't spend foolishly. There is more involved that
you are aware of. I worked part time for a home oxygen provider for a
I spoke to the owner of the company I used to work for. Even though
that contract is for 3 years, even though there are no more payments
after that time they are still obligated to service the equipment and
give you supplies as long ass you are using it. So they get paid for
36 months, but the service is for the life of your use even it goes
another 15 years.
Medicare payments have been reduced at least three times. Ten years
ago he was billing more than double what he is billing today for the
same number of patients. The only changes is that in that time
expenses have gone up.
If you are interested in getting on the gravy train you can buy his
business. He will sell rather than close so he is not charged with
patient abandonment. He was offered $1million about 10 years ago and
is hoping to get $50k now.
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