On a probability basis there is no logic at all to what you say.
Probabilistically the second person if far more likely to NOT want to
die. Extending that out, the best way to prevent this from happening
in the future is for everyone in the plane to ride in the
That's not practical, but what they coudl do is move the door from right
behind the navigator back to just in front of the rear galley. Then all
the passengers will be in the cockpit with the pilots. They can sing
The second person in the cockpit is not just to prevent the pilot
from committing mass murder. It is a precaution in case the PIC
suffers a heart attack, stroke, or other issue that puts him out of
commission.. Flight crew are all trained in the use of the radio -
even if they are not licenced radio operators, and they can summon
help if required. There have been several instances of an aiplane
being landed by "remote control" by non-pilots, with input from a
ground-based pilot/trainer over the radio.. Some almost flawless
landings, and some hairy but safe ones.
Several cases where a passenger filled in for the "second seat" on
commercial airliners as well - but there was either pilot or copilot
in "first seat"
Virtually EVERY commercial flight I have been on has had more than one
male "flight attendant". Some of these guys are licenced pilots who
don't have a job as a commercial pilot and love to fly, and some of
them look like they could be body-builders or bouncers.
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 19:43:58 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I left it out but... Stewardesses are probably a lot easier to knock
out, but.... Look out that window! and while his back is turned, hit him
over the head with a wrench. No guns in the cockpit afaik, but there
must be something hard and heavy to use.
Yeah, I know this doesn't happen often, and I know a 2nd person will
help if the pilot keels over dead. I'm just saying that a 2nd person
won't help or won't help much if the pilot wants to crash the plane.
It's another example of "Let's do something" even if it won't help.
On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 4:54:16 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
Maybe it's not as bad an idea as you think. The USA is a big country,
with lots of major airlines, more flights than any other country in the
world. We haven't had a single case where a nut job pilot crashed the
plane, deliberately killing everyone. So, maybe our procedures and systems
are better. It's becoming more obvious that this pilot was never fit to
have had a medical certificate or job at an airline and that Lufthansa
knew it. IDK what the aviation compensation laws are in Europe, but this
kind of gross negligence case could be a whopper.
From what I read this morning, the guy took a couple of breaks from
training due to his problems, depression, and the like. People like that
should not be entrusted with the lives of others.
The compensation laws seem to make the airline liable too. You'd think
this would have been noticed as he had medical notes to not work. The
airline already said they would be paying some compensation.
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