OT. Middle Class Living

[Xeno]

Well, depends on how you work. If you're part of the *gig economy*, you would still be working class.

[Xeno]

Yes it is.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Gig economy jobs like these?

Cindy Hamilton

[Xeno]

I think the level of professional training they require takes them out of the working class jobs. They would come under *contractor* status. I had more in mind the low skill gig economy. My friend's daughter in law is making something in the order of UKP700 per day but doesn't work all that many days in the year. You would only need 100 - 150 days per year to be getting a very decent income. I thought it was only oil rig workers on that kind of money per day.

[invalid unparseable]

Following thread, I'm thinking of an extremely wealthy guy I know. He was an immigrant in poverty when his family came here from Europe when he was about 10 years old. While in school he was the major family support working when not in school. Graduate education got into businesses to make a ton of money. Now 80 years old and still working one of his businesses. How would you describe him? Maybe he covers all three classes.

[gfretwell]

The last gig job I had was contract electrical inspector, $58.50 per hour (in 2000) portal to portal plus expenses.

[Joe 30330]

Definitely not a democrat.

[Shadow]

Long article, short attention span, I get it:

//It characterized the middle class as having a reasonable amount of discretionary income, so that they do not live from hand to mouth as the poor do, and defined it as beginning at the point where people have roughly a third of their income left for discretionary spending after paying for basic food and shelter. This allows people to buy consumer goods, improve their health care, and provide for their children's education.// []'s

[Shadow]

My brother was a teacher. He worked at least 10 hours a day. Research, preparing lessons, correcting exams, giving lessons. Sometimes solving his pupil's personal problems. I probably worked more as a doctor, but I'd hardly call him "lazy". "Lazy" conjures up some IT guy sitting on his arse all day (or any other profession that does not require much effort or constant learning), people that inherit fortunes and spend their lives as "playboys", actors. most politicians. Well, people that don't go to bed very tired from their everyday work. []'s

[Shadow]

Tip: To be upper class, tilt your head back slightly when addressing someone, look down on them (climbing up on a chair might work if you're a short-ass) and speak with an hot egg in your mouth. If that doesn't work, demand "respect" even if you don't respect anyone else. A carnation (even a plastic one) in your lapel works wonders too. Did I forget anything? []'s

PS The thread was about lower, middle and upper classes, not ancient history.

[Shadow]

The latter. You don't have to deal with the pupils and any dumb fsck can learn programming. []'s

[Swer]

No its not; They are paid a wage and don’t turn into middle class when they are salaried later, doing the same job. Your class is determined by what you do, using your brain or your hands in general even tho say a haul pak driver does use both.

[Swer]

Definitely middle class. So are Gates, Zuckerberg, Siros, Bezos, Jobs etc.

Nope, because class is determined by what you do, not your income or assets.

[invalid unparseable]

Then what does the upper class do?

[Ed Pawlowski]

Well, in spite of the present pissing contest, different sources have different definitions. Some use it to describe income, others for social status.

Class is an economic term whereas Status is a social or psychological term. Class is a necessarily about categorization whereas Status is more of self-approval. Both of them consider financial positioning but Status also takes inputs regarding power/prestige/authority.

Pew defines the middle class as those whose annual household income is two-thirds to double the national median, which was $57,617 as of 2016. ... Single-person households bringing in as little as $78,281 a year, and five-person households bringing in at least $175,041, actually qualify as upper-income, according to Pew.

noun

1. the social group between the upper and working classes, including professional and business workers and their families. "the urbanization and expansion of the middle class" adjective
2. relating to the middle class. "a middle-class suburb"

So depending on how you rank, a techer making $35k a year can have a higher social status than a welder making $100k. Maybe your shit does not stink so social status is more important.

[Swer]

Try to tell others how they should do stuff. Al Gore is a classic example of that.

[Swer]

Nope, you never do.

Just what some fool in the economist claims, stupid.

Pity about the rest of the article, you flagrantly dishonest bleeding chunk quoter.

That stupid line would see e widows of the middle class that don't make adequate provision for the death of the only income earner don't turn into working class when their financial situation goes bad.

And that clearly doesn't happen.

[Rod Speed]

That's for that completely superfluous proof that you have never had a f****ng clue about what software is about.

[Rod Speed]

The poms have organised things so that anyone trying to pretend to be upper class like that stands out like dogs balls, stupid.

Everything, as always.

[Rod Speed]

But you need to be a lot more than a dumb f*ck to do it well.