On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 4:22:34 PM UTC-4, SBH wrote:
Have you considered the insurance implications?
Are you getting a discount because your car is listed as having DRL? Wouldn't
it suck if they denied a claim because they determined that you modified
a built-in safety feature?
(Before anybody tosses something derogatory in my direction, I seriously
doubt that this would ever be an issue. I'm just putting it out there.
Heck for all I know, the Ins Co may not even know that the vehicle is
being used for commercial purposes. Now *that's* something that could be
Discount from insurance? LMAO! Oh wait, you're serious?
Frankly, I've been paying insurance for many many years without ever
requiring the need for their service, as I'm sure many others have.
Therefore, you can guess if I give a damn what they think or if I care
to disclose more info than what they need.
Umm. If the other drivers need headlights to be on in the daytime to
see the truck/car coming towards them, it's time for new glasses and/or
contacts. Better yet, it's time to remove said asshat from the road.
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Hmmm. I most certainly don't understand how I can access a copy of a
What gets me is that we are being told to conserve energy by getting
'Energy Star' appliances, using LED and CFL bulbs, adhering to DST
mandates, and yet they waste energy with DRLs which only marginally
affect visibility. Idiocracy anyone?
Even assuming this is true... two million gallons of gas, divided by two hundred fifteen million
licensed drivers, equals a whopping SEVEN TEASPOONS of gasoline per driver per year.
Don't you have anything more important to worry about? Sheesh. Get a grip.
No, of course not. The point -- obviously so, except, apparently, to you -- is that the amount
wasted is completely insignificant.
No, actually, you *are* the one making a big deal out of it. Nobody except you cares about
the waste of this trifling amount. DRLs are proven to improve safety. The cost is 7
teaspoons of gasoline per driver per year. You apparently think that's a big deal. You need
to get a grip.
They apparently cared enough about the trifling amount to not want
taillights to be included in the DRL scenario. Why not, if it is so
trifling an amount? Have you even read anything other than blogs about
Well duh, taillights are not on. only front lights.
I also take issue with the numbers. They used simple math that it takes
X power to make a given amount of energy. It is not linear.
You need X power to turn the alternator no matter how much power is
actually generated. If the car was usung a lot of electrical drvices
the add on may be accurate. It it is sing very little it may not take
any additional power for the energy consumed. Remember, the alternator
is turning based on the rpm of the engine.
For the past few decades I've run manufacturing plants. It takes a
certain amount of fuel to bring the boilers up to pressure. When we
start one of the small machines we see zero increase in consumption
because what we don't use is otherwise lost at idle. That 7 teaspoons
a day may really be 3.
Taillight are not deemed to have a benefit as DRL are.
While the power generated can affect the energy needed, even if no power
is generated the hardware still is tuening. You have frictional load
from bearings and anything else making contact.
That is true once it exceeds the basic load of turning the equipment.
If no power is used the alternator does not stop, it is still turning
making minimal power, needed or not. Unless you have a clutch to
disengage or remove the belt, it is using power from the engine to spin.
If it spins it makes electricity and it may be enough to power the DRL
with no additional load.
I've not seen any tests done to actually measure the difference, only
Even in low visibility conditions? Come on, you can do better than
that. If the performance hit is negligible - why not?
Plus, DRL benefits are disputed.
Yes, minus the magnetic effect which is added when the electrical load
increases. If the 'energy fairy' concept works for you that's fine, but
don't expect me to buy it.
Bullshit! The effect of 'generation' is actually only 'conversion' and
the more you demand, the harder it is to turn the rotor and the more
chemical energy is converted to electrical energy. It matters not
whether it is friction or friction plus magnetism that the engine is
Well maybe you should then. Hook up a generator to a lamp or other
device through a switch. Hand crank the generator with the switch open,
then have somebody throw the switch on.
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