+1 on that.
After winding up on the grass from a major episode of atrial
fibrillation I went to see the first guy.
Hardly made eye contact - just kept his head down typing away on his
laptop. 3 visits later, he could tell me almost word-for-word what went
down during any of the previous visits. But he was unresponsive to
the things I said.... I got the impression that I was just another old
guy who was going to die in a few years and he was basically working
from a cookbook.
He rolled a couple of pills and basically called it a wrap.
One of the pills was a beta blocker and it sent my quality of life right
down the toilet. Told him that.... no particular response.
Said to myself "The hell with this guy"... and went shopping.
Next guy, I could *talk* with... and when I said something stupid, he
would interrupt me and tell me why it was stupid...
And one of the things he told me was that the beta blocker was strictly
for the patient's comfort: it reduces the frequency of a-fib
episodes.... but, since mine were rare - albeit severe - there was not
much reason to take the beta blocker - especially since it was ruining
The one that keeps you alive is the anti-coagulant (afib episodes tend
to form clots in the blood as it passes through the heart).... and the
incidence of death with or without a beta blocker is the same given that
one is taking the anti-coagulant.
I came away feeling *much* better.... OTOH, maybe this guy is all
personality, and is BS-ing me.... but I don't think so because I double
checked his story with a couple other docs - albeit not cardio buys.
Bottom Line: Shop around!!!! There really are night-and-day differences
between docs with the same training.
I really need to get my blood pressure down ASAP so will go with the
My mother's side of the family has extremely high cholesterol but they
have all lived into the 90 - 95 age range. On doctor's advice they
briefly took statins and had horrible reactions.
If I do need something for cholesterol though I'd probably take your
recommendation over statins though
Be careful with blood pressure meds.
They killed my mom. It was not a direct cause but the Dr over did the
meds, she got dizzy a lot, fell broke shit and pretty much gave up the
will to live.
I stopped taking mine when I started monitoring my BP. It started when
I got dizzy walking on the ribs of my screen cage, 15' above the
ground. It turned out my BP would crash when I was up and around
(doing the potentially dangerous stuff) but it was high if I was just
Three lessons there.
1. Check your BP while you are in different activities.
2. Don't trust the Dr blindly.
3. Get up off your ass.
I decided I would rather take my chances with a heart attack instead
of falling off the roof or cutting my hand off with the table saw.
On 10/14/2016 01:06 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Thanks for the advice. I am glad I bought the blood pressure meter so I
can check the results at different times.
I have no plans for going up on ladders again but of course do not want
to go around getting dizzy.
Guess I will see what happens.
As I mentioned before, after what happened with my wife we will never
blindly trust doctors again.
Fortunately she got through a very bad situation...her survival can be
traced to the day I drove her to the doctor's office with two shoe boxes
full of pills and demanded and explanation.
After several more doctors she is now down from 14 different meds to
three and doing better than ever.
Much of the over 50 crowd is on pills of some sort. I take metropolol
50 mg twice a day. In addition to thyroid and a couple of ibuprofen to
keep the knees pain free.
I don't use a lot of salt and it does not seem to matter for me. I've
been trying to lose 20 pounds for the past 10 years with no luck.
At 67 you should be on medicare with no cost for physicals.
On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 2:15:51 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
I guess I'm lucky, then. Almost 60, and all I take is a multivitamin
and glucosamine-chondroitin (more out of superstition than anything
else, I think, since I can't tell if it's working). I was on
Prilosec for almost 15 years, but I've lost about 80 pounds and don't
seem to need it anymore.
I was munching potato chips when I read the OP. My BP ranges between
110/70 and 120/80. I can't imagine it'll last, though. By the time
I'm an old fart, I'll be taking medications, too.
I drove truck in the '90s and that was a cut-off for the DOT physical.
Medication wasn't allowed either because of the potential side effects
impacting safety. I was always borderline. The last time I renewed my DL
I was over 140. However I hadn't driven a truck in about 15 years and
with the new requirements like the DHS vetting if you have a HazMat
endorsement, which is necessary for most companies, I dropped the CDL.
I'd thought I might retire and drive summers for the hell of it but at
this point in my life the only thing I want to drive in the summer is a
The conventional wisdom 60 years ago was 100 plus your age which allowed
for the gradual increases with aging. Then they declared anything over
120/80 was borderline hypertension. The latest dogma seems to be 120/80
is nice but extremely aggressive treatment to get you to that reading
I am on medicare and also have supplemental through AARP
but they do not seem to cover a routine physical.
If I state something specific, then it will be covered.
First time I went there I said I wanted to physical and as long as I was
there, to have my sinuses checked as well.
They told me that to get it covered they'd have to word it as "sinuses"
but I'd get a brief physical in the process.
It is called a "wellness" exam. Covered once a year
We have the AARP/United Healthcare supplement. My wife has had three
hospital visits this year. One was $202,000 list price. so far, my out
of pocket expenses for everything is $0.
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