I bought this house with an in-ground swimming pool 2 years ago.
Never had any problems until now.
It's a pool spa combination. About 10,500 gallons. Two skimmers. Two drains
(pool and spa) heater, floating chlorine dispenser, sand-filter and Polaris.
Pool is about 35 years old.
Just recently it started getting air bubbles coming out of one of the spa
input jets. I can hear some air going through the plumbing near the
filter/multi valve. I don't see any bubbles going into the main pump filter
The sand filter's pressure gauge indicates a small decrease in pressure
(approx drop from 17lbs to 16lbs) but when any leaves get in the pump filter
basket the pressure drops dramatically. (past 10 lbs)
I've also noticed more sand in the pool from the filter
How can I track down the leak?
Could it be the valves gaskets?
Does a worn spider gasket on the multi valve cause sand in the pool and
could this be where I'm getting the air bubbles from?
Could the air be coming from a pump gasket?
Yeah...I did a little research and it said I may need to drain the filter
take out the sand and replace the laterals (not sure what those are) I'd
contact my supply store but those kids usually aren't much help. I'd rather
figure it out on my own. Cheaper, and *usually* gets done correctly. It's
not rocket science. :^)
Changing the laterals - assuming you can find replacements - can be a lot of
work. [Consider removing several hundred pounds of sand through a small
Changing the the spider gasket is cheap and easy. Try that first.
On the other hand, I get a small but detectable amount of sand after
backwashing. Done this for years and never progressed to anything major.
I'd keep an eye on the situation before making any major decisions.
I was doing more reading on laterals and it said to just replace the whole
filter is much easier. Considering the filter is 35 years old I think I'll
just let it ride for awhile. The sand amount is pretty small and it has been
doing it since I got it.
I backwash a lot too. Maybe too much. I read, on the internet, that I should
wait until it gets 10lbs over not 3 to 4 lbs like I was. I'll cut back on
It really sounds to me like the air is getting in through the pump gasket. I
almost positive the spider gasket needs replacing too. I had some issues
with it backwashing into the spa.
I keep the water level high enough to keep air from coming in through the
skimmers. I can see the water flowing through the pump basket. It has one of
those transparent lids. I don't see any air bubbles coming in there. I do
hear some unusual noise near the pump. It's not coming from the multi valve
or filter. It sounds like it's coming from the pump housing. I had the
gasket replaced two years ago. So it makes me wonder why it went out so
Anyway, I think I just need to go through it and replace all the gaskets
before I tear apart the filter.
I wonder; Why is it so hard to replace the sand if it's susposed to be done
every five years? I have no idea how long it's been since it's been
replaced. How can I tell?
It's not hard to replace the sand providing...
My filter holds 2 50lb bags of sand.
That's 100lbs dry, a bit more damp.
I can still reach under the deck lift out the filter
full of sand and pour the sand into a wheelbarrow.
But I wouldn't call it easy.
So providing you're strong enough it's easy as pie.
Weigh is proportionate to diameter. 36 inches is probably 500 pounds.
I've changed my sand once in 30+ years and even then the grains felt sharp.
So probably not necessary. I'd guess you'd notice inefficient filtering
eventutally but the "5 year" rules seems vastly over-rated.
After 30 years, my Tahitian developed a leaky valve. No parts available.
If yours is of that vintage, I question availabliity of valve parts or
laterals [these are just plastic tubes with slits that snap to screw into
the main pipe.]
I bought a used Hayward on Craigslist for $50 because parts are available.
Changed the spider gasket and good to go. Replacement laterals available.
Mine's a Baker Hydro. Parts are still available.
Filtering is still excellent so I guess:"don't fix it if it ain't broken".
I've looked at some of the valve gaskets and they are in bad shape so that's
what I'm going to do. I have two extra valves because of the spa.
Good idea to look on craigslist for replacement parts. I wouldn't have
thought of it.
Good idea if the gaskets are not available anymore but the gaskets would
have to be able to withstand chlorine. I doubt the spider gasket would be
I wasn't thinking of getting gaskets off of Craigslist. I was thinking of
getting the entire filter.
Looks similar to this
You are somewhat in lucky then. Baker Hydro also makes a valve that can be
made to fit my old Tahitian but it was very pricey and I'd still have had
30+ year old laterals which are not available. Baker Hydro did not have the
actual gasket for the Tahitian, although I think they made the oringal
valve. I've competently made "o" rings from stock [razor + crazy glue]
but, as another poster mentioned, making a spider gasket is too complex.
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