On most of the forums such as alt.hvac and web sites where "pros" are
posting, it seems like they flame DIYers especially if prices are
discussed. There is a fear of the free market. Hey' everybody else
works in a job market where market forces determine the price!
Therefore, if it is necessary to do so, don't hesitate to post prices.
Comparison shopping is good. Everyone understand that specific
circumstances may be different and all prices posted aren't comparable,
but more information is always good.
It is sad to see a few members of some groups play their little games -
that is what hiding behind an electronic network will do - bring out
the AH's. It also brings out people who have real expertise and offer
their expertise and knowledge to the rest of us.
Like to be able to meet some of these AH's - always wondered what their
problem(s) are - psych types call it compensation for an actual or
percieved problem. Ah well may the AH's depart the gene pool quickly.
There's a difference between good, useful information and useless
information. Comparing things like a computer or a car, where
everything is identical, is fine - there will still be regional
variations, but relatively small. It just doesn't work that way in
construction. The labor and material prices vary so widely from place
to place, even in the same state, that the numbers become pretty much
meaningless to someone from a different area.
"alt.hvac is changing for the good.
All questions home owner or pro or DIY welcomed"
I posted a question there - and promptly got told by an AH that
consumers did not belong on that site. Several people jumped on his
I had a specific question - see below
Question posted on alt hvac
Am in planning stage of building a new home in S WI. Have talked to
several HVAC dealers - learned tube type HX are much more reliable than
clamshells - I suppose most agree with that.
Now are there differences between tube type HX's from manufacturer to
manufacturer. Most of the internal parts look very similiar - like
PC's - umpteen brands with very few manufacturer's of the basic parts.
Are there differences in types of HX tubes - if so which brand(s) are
better and why.
Responses seemed to indicate that there are differences in HX tube
design. Amen on the biggest priority being getting a system correctly
designed and installed. Now back to the question - which manufacturer
makes a better HX tube or on the flip side - whose should be avoided.
They all looked the same to me - there are some differences.
Don't know which specific model/manufacturer is better, but it would be
reflected in the overall reliability of the model. Newer models use
different designs and materials (stainless, "Tufsteel", etc.), so the
reliability may vary year to year. As a homeowner, I don't think you
need be concerned about this aspect, and instead concentrate on a good
installer and warranty.
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