How to properly use a hammer on nails?

[ransley]

I saw it in the store, no demo out but it looks like light duty.

[MiamiCuse]

I heard that the remington gun nailer is very loud (almost like a gun shot) is that true?

[HeyBub]

Yeah, I just got one of these - swell little device.

Sumbitch will drive a railroad spike into a steel I-beam!

It's got a itty-bitty piston inside that uses 90psi of air-pressure to throw a slammer gizmo about 1/4" But it does this about a thousand times a minute and in less time than it takes to swing a hammer the nail is driven home (or bent into a pretzel and firmly imbedded in the work where it adds a quaint patina to the project).

Mine came with several "bits." There's the regular bit of course, then one with a magnet to hold the nail, another for finishing nails (it's smaller in diameter), and one that just knocks without any pretense of holding a nail. I don't know what you'd use the last one for - maybe scootching a board into position?

[dadiOH]

They *are* gun shots. A 22 cartridge. How loud depends on the load...more powder = more noise. It also = more driving force and therin lies the problem...selecting the correct load for the work at hand. Too low and the nail won't penetrate fully; too high and you may well wind up with the nail driven completely through a board. One can't use the same load to attach a piece of soft wood to concrete block that one would use to attach it to concrete. Concrete varies in hardness too. Sometimes from spot to spot.

[Oren]

My guess is about like a fire cracker or a bull whip being cracked. Use a good set of ear muff protection and safety glasses.

Fastening to steel is very loud (imo).

video:

[ds549]

hold the nail with your thumb on the nail head... think "carefull,,,carefull"..swing hammer.. DOH!!!!

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[MiamiCuse]

Jim thanks.

After browsing around the internet trying to get educated...I came across this product.

says it will do framing, trusses, decks, and drive into concrete. So except for finish nailing, it will serve all my needs from framing, to reinforcing existing studs, to attic truss and framing repair, to attaching furring strips to concrete walls...I think.

then all I need is a finish nailer for baseboards and trim later.

Thoughts?

MC

[HeyBub]

1. You've got to use special (clipped head) nails. I'm not sure you can zip down to HD and pick up a pack.
2. Framing nailers are the 12-guage shotguns of the nailer world. They are POWERFUL devices and require eye and ear protection, a STRONG right arm (they're heavy), and a bulletproof vest (groin protection encouraged).
3. For baseboards and trim you'll want a BRAD nailer. It'll shoot up to a 2" brad easily. I got one for from Harbor Freight and couldn't be more pleased.

One difference between a framing nailer and a plam nailer is this: The framing nailer goes "POW!" and with the release of energy equivalent to

1/8th of a stick of dynamite throws a 3" piece of steel into a hunk of lumber. A palm nailer goes tappity-tap-tap-tap (like a hammer) until the same result is achieved.

For handyman stuff around the house, I'd start with a palm nailer.

[Joe]

Good tool. I've used a Senco 365 framer for years...indispensible. Before you buy a clipped head tool though, check with your building code people. Some high wind communities do not allow them. Pros like the clipped heads because you don't run out of 'bullets' as often. Full head nails naturally are a bit better at holding things together, and for the typical DIYer, reloading is seldom an issue. Senco nails are a top grade product. With the variety they have available you can spend more than you think stocking the precise fastener you prefer for a project. Remember not to use the nailer to draw pieces together. Clamp first, then nail. HTH.

Joe

[Jim Elbrecht]

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Senco is a good name--- but I'd be sure I don't always have to go to the internet for nails. I didn't even know they made anything but the gas nailers. Home Depot carries those around here. My brother in law has one and it is the only place that sells the nails locally-- and they never have the size he wants.

Second Joe's comment to be sure your local codes allow snipped heads.

And second Heybub's that framing nailers are the "12 ga shotgun"-- they are heavy, loud and kick like heck.

I think I'd also check to be sure it will nail fir strips to concrete walls. Cool if it does- but they don't seem to bragging much on it in the manual.

Jim

[Red Green]

"MiamiCuse" wrote in news:B7-dnc9cFfFScMXUnZ2dnUVZ [e-mail]:

Yep. The "loads" are .22 cal shells.