We had a bad storm last week and water came in the window well because
the gutter had a blockage reducing it's flow (inconviently spilling
all excess water right next to the window). The carpet got probably
10 - 20 gallons of water spilled on it. From time to time small
amounts of water has gotten in (due to gutter backups) so I figured no
big deal; a fan usually dries it out in a day or two. This time I
tried to soak up water using towels and then ran a fan (and
dehumidifier), but it's a week later...The carpet is still a little
wet, and the basement smells terrible with the windows shut.
I have to keep the window open and draw air through with a box fan
while the air conditioner runs upstairs...no creating super-humid
conditions. I'm willing to tear out the old carpet (if necessary). I
can rent an industrial dehumidifer (Ebac DB80), but what should we do
about the smell in the mean time. If we close everything up, the
whole house smells like mildew...if we don't close the house, will it
ever dry? Should we get a HEPA air cleaner?
The water appears to have run on the outside of the drywall (this is a
finished basement), but not doubt that some water went into the wall.
The Red Cross flood manual said wallboard soaked (I would not call it
soaked) with clear rain water can be left to dry...I'm comfortable
replacing drywall, but I'd rather not if it can be avoided.
Also, should we worry about the couches being a breeding groud for
mold/mildew? Are there tests that we
Chris Snyder wrote:
We had a much more minor flood when our washer hose broke and flooded
kitchen and part of dining room. We are on slab, and about half the
dining room rug got soaked (no pad, on tile). Hubby rented a heavy duty
wet vac, with a squeegy type floor nozzle which worked miracles getting
the water out of the rug and off the floor - the terrazo was dry as the
nozzle went over it. We put fans in the dining room and laid stuff
under the wet part of the rug to keep it off floor and hasten drying.
It was totally dry within 24 hours, and there didn't appear to be any
damage to baseboards or drywall because we got it up fast - it got about
an inch deep in the kitchen. I realize your carpet and padding may dry
much more slowly, but I'd try the vac and ventilate it best you can.
Dehumidify as best you can and keep it dry.
If you are smelling mildew, you have mildew, and no amount of dehumidifying
is going to kill it. You need to get rid of the mildew.
You *may* be able to pull up the carpet and kill the mildew on the bottom of
it with a strong bleach solution. However, this will possibly rot the
backing and/or leak through to the face, and then you've ruined the carpet.
But I'm betting it's a loss anyway.
Mildew is highly allergenic, and you don't want to submit yourself or your
family to this stuff.
A backup sump won't help you in a heavy storm for 15 hours. You need a
generator to power the pump you already have. You should also have a
spare pump and check valve handy because those things only die at the
And even a generator has a limited run time... although I suppose
with a gas or LPG you _might_ be able to get a re-supply,
depending on the weather/power conditions (Gas stations don't
pump when there's no power). You can't keep large amounts of
gas on hand or in the generator unless you are careful to keep
There's no perfect solution except an external perimeter drain on
a lot high enough to allow for drainage even when it's flooding
=We have a French drain and the basement is normally quite dry with the
drain, sump and dehumidifier.
I'm guessing an emergency pump would only have to run a few times a day to
keep the basement from
flooding. Why wouldn't a Basement Watchdog handle it? I was just prepared to
buy one. We are pretty high
but on the downside of a mountain. The town put a drainage swale? in above
our subdivision when it was being divided but we still have poor drainage in
some areas of the yard. I never could figure out why some parts of the yard
drain well while other parts puddle for days. But, I do know that when this
carpet is due to be replaced (we just installed it), I will have a more
"flood-friendly" flooring down there.
A natural gas generator and a stand-by pump (or better yet a hot spare
setup slightly higher than the main pump) is very close to a perfect
solution. The side benefit is that if you buy a decent sized generator
you can use it for other things as well.
Ummm, no, our water-powered backup sump pump ran twice an hour,
ejecting about 25 gallons at a pop, for over 5 days, during a power
outage. Our basement stayed bone dry, while our neighbors
who had electrically powered ones ended up with swimming pools.
Not all mechanical devices - especially backup ones - run
on electricity. ;-)
In alt.home.repair on Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:08:18 -0400 Speedy Jim
It sounds great.
Except this line: Uniquely mounted on the ceiling above the sump pit,
it doesn't have to fight the downward force of the water that most
==I think it has to lift the water out of the sump, which is just as
difficult as pumping it out from beneath. (Maybe even harder?)
pumps must push up vertically. For this reason, it consistently
removes more water per hour than other water powered backup sump pumps
and even rivals the best battery powered backup sump pumps, short- and
==I don't deny that it does that, but I think it would be for other
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Ours is made by Zoeller. It uses city water pressure to drive
the pump. Basically, you hook it up to a water line, and set the
float switch to activate above the level of your electric pump.
Obviously there's a need for additional plumbing for the supply
water and to eject the sump water, but it's well worth it. You
never need to worry about a power outage or running a
I can't imagine it would be that much, for most of the civilized
world. ;-) A few thousand extra gallons of water would raise my
bill by about $5.00. :-)
In any case, when the backup pump goes on, it's really quite loud.
You can't miss it, and it would be really obvious that the main
sump isn't running.
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