snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote in news:sWSbj.972$6%. snipped-for-privacy@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com:
OTOH,Bush graduated from Yale,passed jet fighter training along with SERE training,flew F-102 jets,NOT easy tasks,and impossible for outsiders to influence his passing them. They don't let incompetents through those schools.
Passing military flight school requires math along with the physical stuff.
Wow, did you figure that out all by yourself? FYI, it's not just some speculators that are there to turn a quick profit. It's ALL SPECULATORS. And it's a very good thing.
Neither you nor I know what percentage of
Actually, you don't but I do. And anyone that cares to find out can. All they need to do is look at the CFTC committment of traders report, where all players who hold positions of any significant size in all the exchange traded futures have to report it to the CFTC.
Yeah, noise is a good term. But then you use that, where some politician in Indai is bitching as a reference?. They know so much about economics and how to run a country, look where it got them. And if we listened to you, that's where the US would soon be too. Here's some real gems from your article:
"Analysts say the market has gone from a small group of oil users and producers to a full-fledged investment arena in recent years, like stocks or bonds. Prices can move according to intangible factors like fear, just as they do in the equity markets, the analysts say. "
Wow, did they figure that out all by themselves? You mean if there is fear of a hurricane or a war affecting supplies of oil, it can actually change the price? What a break through in economics!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Hey Einstein....it's WRONG when you hear this on the news:
"Oil jumped $2.00 a barrel today on concerns about renewed violence in Baghdad".
I heard that two years ago, while listening with my son, who was 16 at the time. His comment: "Baghdad's *always* violent, and Iraq produces pretty much zero oil. What a stupid reason for the price to go up".
He was right. Some of the price swings are due to the fears of emotional investors who are no better at understanding the oil markets than the oil companies themselves. Anyone who's not an employee of an oil-related company should be barred from meddling.
"Pete C." wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@snet.net:
Many if not most states that developed nuclear weapons did it with government-owned reactors;there's no such animal as a "civilian" nuclear power plant in Russia,China or North Korea.I suspect Israel's Dimona reactor is gov't owned,too.
You keep hearing that, but does it ever sink in?
++++++++++++++++++++++I've only heard it from people in newsgroups. I've never seen data which says we absorb so much volume in oil that it's causing problems for China. If you've seen it, please post links.
In your text message, be sure you don't respond to something I didn't say.
Oh fer crissake....you know exactly what I meant when I used the word "civilian".
"Pete C." wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@snet.net:
I wonder if we could somehow use nuclear power plants to make the coal- gasoline conversion process more economical and practical? Then we could employ our vast coal deposits to run our autos.
Kurt Ullman wrote in news:kurtullman- snipped-for-privacy@70-3-168-216.area.spcsdns.net:
there was something in the news recently about the 1st new license being issued for a new nucelar power plant. IIRC,they have streamlined the process considerably.
also,that new pebble-bed reactor technology really looks promising.
"Pete C." wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@snet.net:
how do you supply power when the sun goes down,if there are no batteries to store the excess power generated by the solar panels? Wind generators typically go quiet at night,too.
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Who said it's causing problems for China? Not me. You took issue with someone's response that told you if the USA didn't buy Arab oil, China would.
And, in response, what I said was the idea that somehow the US can eliminate or drastically reduce our foreign oil consumption to the point that it punishes mid-east oil producers, is silly. The market for oil is worldwide. It's not a US-Arab only market. Demand from countries like China is growing as they industrialize more and their populations grow each year. So, if we were embark on any reasonable program to reduce US oil imports, there is still plenty of demand for mid east oil in the decades ahead and they will indeed sell it elsewhere, like China. You might lower the revenue to the mid-east countries. But it isn't going to really screw them. They were doing OK a few years ago when oil was $30, weren't they? But you could screw a lot of US companies, by forcing them to pay more for new alternative energy sources, while their competition in China and India continues to use oil.
Never was implying that such was the case, Jim. Just merely pointing out that, regardless of the toys involved, there are yuppies who always purchase the 'status symbol'.
Nah, been there, done that.
I was an administrative assistant to a U.S. Senator who was on the Armed Services Committee. Been to the White House more than once (three times, actually). Those people work too hard.
Bush is hardly a retard - he has an MBA from Harvard.
Interesting. Actually issued or just applied for? Did not see that. Streamline is a relative term (g)>
Of course if Bush is indeed a retard, what does that make those to whom he has handed their own ass???
I'm talking about this Bush:
"I don't particularly like it when people put words in my mouth, either, by the way, unless I say it."?Crawford, Texas, Nov. 10, 2007
You must be talking about a different person.
"Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric in nature because it is a product that we can find in our neighborhoods."?Austin, Texas, Dec.
20, 2000"She's just trying to make sure Anthony gets a good meal?Antonio."?On Laura Bush inviting Justice Antonin Scalia to dinner at the White House. NBC Nightly News With Tom Brokaw, Jan. 14, 2001
"I am mindful of the difference between the executive branch and the legislative branch. I assured all four of these leaders that I know the difference, and that difference is they pass the laws and I execute them."?Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2000
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the great and enduring alliances of modern times."?Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002
About half the USA's electricity comes from coal-fired power plants. CFLs actually reduce the amount of mercury going into the environment.
- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)
Plutonium comes from breeder reactors. Most nuclear power plants are not breeder reactors.
- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)
The very most efficient LEDs that I have been able to buy are slightly less efficient than T8 fluorescents. And ones that efficient only come in an icy cold shade of white and in green.
LEDs are advancing gradually and their cost is coming down gradually. It's going to be more than a couple years before they become the main light source in homes or offices.
White ones mostly have rated life of 50,000 hours.
- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)
Did you figure that out all by yourself too? Of course it's wrong and no one here, certainly not me, suggested renewed violence in Iraq has affected oil prices. My sarcasm above referred to a hurricane or war affecting oil prices, not violence in Iraq. A hurricane moving into the Gulf of Mexico drives up the price of oil and energy products because of the possibility of it damaging oil production there or Gulf coast refineries. Remember Katrina? Energy prices moved up BEFORE the hurricane even damaged anything.
And the prospect of a war in the mideast, like perhaps the USA or Israel striking Iran, would drive up the price too, because of the new uncertainty and fear of possible supply disruption.
What do you think happens to corn and soybean futures in July, when the national weather forecast changes from normal to hot and dry with no rain? They go up. Is that some market manipulation? No, it's just everyone in the market reacting to the new market information and acting accordingly. You want to ban that and close those future markets too, because you don't understand it?
Welcome to economics 101.
Have you ever taken any economics courses? Your ignorance is overwhelming. Future markets serve a valuable purpose, unless perhaps you're a Marxist. They go back over a hundred years. They transfer risk from one party to another. Hedgers transfer risk to speculators, who take the opposite sides of many of their trades and provide liquidity. And speculators are on both sides of the market. They don't just go long, they also go short. If you looked at reality, instead of listening to political hacks, stupid Indian bureaucrats and OPEC, you'd find out that plenty of speculators LOST money, because they thought oil was topping out at $80 a barrel and they shorted it.
And you must have completely failed to see the message in my earlier little story about the guy who keeps buying stock driving it from
25cents to $5 then goes to sell it. How exactly do you think speculators can manage to buy futures to drive up the price of oil and then manage to sell it without driving it back down again? And keep in mind, there are a whole host of speculators out there, each as greedy as the next, they are located not just in the USA, but around the world. How are you gonna accomplish this alleged operation?What about my question about the OPEC mouthpiece, who says speculators are the cause of high oil prices, in that silly article you cited? Why doesn't OPEC put out a press release tomorrow morning saying they are increasing production? That would drive the price down and teach those speculators a lesson, wouldn't it? Hmmm? Or could it be that action would cost OPEC billions, while shooting their mouths off to mislead guys like you is free?
I see you didn't comment on my pointing out that you didn't know what the hell you were talking about when you said there is no way to know what percent of the market speculators are in oil futures. Did you find the CFTC COT report? I guess we smashed that fallacy. Next!
The (continental) US spans a few time zones so that gives some spread, and hydro and tidal should go a long way towards filling in the night. Add in locally viable items like biomass in big farm / ranch areas, geothermal in the few areas where that works, some storage such as pumped hydro and CAS to store surplus production during peak times and you'll be in better shape. Some time of day rate breaks can also help encourage utilization during off peak times and local energy storage as appropriate.
It would be better if we could utilize the nuclear generated electricity in a more environmentally friendly way such as providing charging power for electric cars and plug in hybrids, and producing hydrogen for the combustion side of the hybrids and for non hybrid vehicles. And of course eventually transition from nuclear generated electricity and onto renewable generated electricity once the renewable are viable in large scale.
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