Fill crawl space with foam?

Two reasons. First, houses tend to act as chimneys--warm moist air rises, finds a way out near the top, and thus floors tend to be under negative pressure--outside air is being pulled in down low. Even if this isn't the case, most floors are sheathed with plywood which which has a high enough perm rating to function as an air/vapor barrier. I have seen a number of floors which were covered on the cold side with poly and there were no apparent problems, though it would probably be prudent to use housewrap on the cold side just in case.

I meant to add to this discussion that most foams cannot be exposed in a crawlspace. they must be covered with a thermal barrier like drywall.

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marson
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That's true, but I think water vapor will still diffuse in all directions.

OK, so there's your vapor barrier on the warm side. :-)

Actually, I've wondered about that. Isn't the point of the thermal barrier to separate the foam from the living space? In that case the floor plywood would do the job and there wouldn't need to be a thermal barrier on the underneath.

Cheers, Wayne

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Wayne Whitney

Pump it in , let it expand, let the floors buckle up 1 ft , Its termite and Carpenter Ant attractive!!! Have fun!!

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ransley

Or you can look for an ASTM E-84 fire rated surface foam, which can be exposed, but not to sunlight or a UV source. A crawlspace would have neither problem...

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Rick Blaine

Actually, while there are definitely some gray areas in my mind concerning vapor barriers and floors, there is no gray area with foam in crawl spaces and rim joists (including the rim joist where the ceiling below is drywalled); the foam must be covered by a thermal barrier. At least according to how the code is interpreted where I live. I've spent some joyous time grovelling around in a crawl space screwing OSB onto ICF's per the BI instructions. There are some foams that meet the flame spread requirements, but not many AFAIK.

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marson

Good to know, thanks. Wayne

One foam I was looking at said: ASTM E-84: FSI 15, SMK 450. That's presumably flame spread index 15, and a smoke criterion of 450. Do you know what the flame spread requirements are from the building code?

Cheers, Wayne

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Wayne Whitney

That is why they are called out, to show they meet code. Check your local codes though, in case they differ.

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Edwin Pawlowski

replying to Robert Allison, McStick wrote: I had a similar idea of filling the entire crawl space with foam, for my 24x16 cabin in Quebec, Canada, where there are no termites. Can you think of any other objections? Price may be the prohibitive factor.

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McStick

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