A friend bought a house that is only 2 or 3 years old, with a well.
She has a softener, but the water still leaves deposits on the shower
door, and on glasses after they're washed. And at the same time the
water doesn't taste good. (In her previous home she drank water from
the tap, after it went through some filter that screwed to the kitchen
Somewhere, here?, I got the impression that softening the water more
might lessen the deposits, but it would make the taste worse, and vice
Maybe she could fill her water pitcher with the well water, before it
went through the softener. Is there are a chance the water would
taste better then? She says there is no spigot to do that with. The
house was built with loads of bells and whistles. Shouldn't there be a
way to bypass the softener and find out what the water tastes like
If it did taste better, she'd be willing to pay to put in a spigot and
go to the basement to fill her water bottle. She might even be willing
to run a pipe up to the kitchen counter.
She lives in what was rolling farmland near Finksburg / Westminster
Maryland. Only a quarter mile from one of Baltimore's water
reservoirs. IIRC, Baltimore barely treats its water -- just a little
chlorine and maybe fluoride -- before sending it to homes.
On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 8:40:54 PM UTC-6, micky wrote:
The outside tap is usually not on the softened water line but is purposely
routed from the water intake line before the softener. Nobody wants to waste treated and conditioned water and that is the reason. If she wants untreated
water just get it from the outside tap. Come winter this will not be possible.
Big jugs of water from the supermarkets sell for $2 to $5...that also works.
There is a certain type of bacteria that can contaminate wells. It will
cause what looks like a brown/greenish slime inside the toilet tank.
(like algie). It makes the water taste like sulfur. (nasty).
I ran across this when I worked as a plumber. I was sent to the job
because the toilet was running all the time, and some faucets in the
house barely had water. Since most of my jobs were in a city, I was
puzzled when I saw all that slime in the toilet tank, and in faucet
strainers, and everywhere else in the plumbing. My boss came out and
even he was not sure what was the cause. The homeowner said they did not
drink the water because ut tasted reak bad. A well driller was called
and he determined it was this bacteria. (I cant recall the name of it).
He had to do something to treat the well, (I was not there). After that
the water was clear and the homeowner said it tasted good again. But we
had to replace all the toilet ballocks and some other stuff.
Yes, unsoftened water usually tastes better and is better for you. My
well where I live now has very hard water, but tastes great. I dont use
a softener. I get orange (rust) stains in the toilet, but "The Works"
cleans it away. It really dont cause me any other problems.
Adding a faucet anywhere should not be a big deal. Cut the pipe, add a
tee, and a faucet! Add one in the basement onto the pipes that feed the
outdoor spigot. Pipe it up to the kitchen if you want. They do sell
sinks with 3 holes just for that purpose. If it's stainless steel, cit
an extra hole with a drill and/or hole cutter (which is often sold for
making larger holes in electrical boxes). Made by "Greenley" (I think
that's the name of the company????)
| Yes, unsoftened water usually tastes better and is better for you. My
| well where I live now has very hard water, but tastes great.
I'm not so sure those are accurate generalizations. If
it were me I'd want to test the water, as Tony said, before
deciding to drink it on a regular basis without filtering.
Manganese, for instance, is associated with nerve damage.
And local well water could contain just about anything.
I also don't see any reason to think that hard water is
better for you. If you eat decent food and get minerals
that you need, then why would non-organic minerals
dissolved in water necessarily be "better for you"?
I once lived in Arizona. Hard water. Salty. Terrible taste.
I now live near Boston. Soft water. Delicious. A top-rated
water system. Yet Cambridge, which is next to Boston,
has separate reservoirs and has some of the worst water
I've tasted. It's both salty and "swampy". The flavor is not
removed by water filters such as Britta. When I work in
Cambridge I try to bring enough water for the day, so that
I won't have to drink Cambridge water. Their reservoir gets
lots of leaves and then gets treated with lots of copper
sulfate. When I once lived there I was told that about 1/3
of the delivery pipes were lead and that some are oak. It
might start out good but several factors affect it along
In another local town, Woburn, there was a famous case
of cancer clusters due to trichloroethane from industrial
sources that migrated to local wells.
Another possible risk with well water is radon gas, especially
if there's granite bedrock. Radon has been estimated to
be a cause of lung cancer in possibly 20% of cases. It
can come up with the water and then be spread in the
air when taking a shower.
Different water supplies. Very different issues with the water,
and big differences in flavor, none of which has much to do
with soft vs hard.
I am in SW Florida where the city water sucks and my well water is
just nasty. (Sulfur, minerals, salt water intrusion etc)
We run it through an aerator, water softener, filter and then a
reverse osmosis unit.
It is as good as bottled water then.
On 05/01/2015 12:21 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I grew up on a farm in east Texas, and we used a well. The water was
really good for drinking but bad for washing (it took a LOT of rinsing
to get the soap out). The water looked like weak beer (especially when
it hadn't been used for awhile). My grandmother said it had been tested
and had iron in it, but a filter would be too expensive.
First thing to check is to see if the softener is working. Softening
eliminates the minerals and thus, the deposits. You can take a sample
to anyone that sells softeners or water treatment and they will test
it for you. Or you can buy a test kit and DIY.
The water treatment company can make recommendations. She may need a
carbon filter for the taste aspects. RO systems are available too.
I don't treat mine and it tastes fine but wife does not like it because
sitting in a container will show sediment. I have a sediment filter but
apparently something occurs to precipitate minerals on standing.
Plumber tested my water for free as he might have gotten the job to put
in a softener. I thought results were borderline and did nothing.
Actually for those with heart conditions softened water with high sodium
is worse to drink.
Softeners exchange calcium for sodium and should not effect taste.
Carbon filters or reverse osmosis could get rid of bad taste.
I've got neighbors that have bottled water delivered but wife buys
bottled when she wants water to just drink.
My test for water, besides taste is to make coffee or tea and watch. In
the city of San Jose, CA the tap water creates 'sludge' on the sides of
our tea pot and huge amounts of sludge on the coffee put, worse, the
coffee has a 'fishy' taste to it. Absolutely discusting!
Now, using the well water here in AZ, [Note the water comes from an
aquifer over 600 ft down and is notably hard, leaving white powder upon
drying EVERYWHERE!] Upon making coffee/tea there is no sludge and the
taste is ok. However *if* the coffee sits for a while, like 6 hours,
develops 'fishy' taste, so avoid doing unless emergency, when run ou of
For bottled water, we use Crystal Geyser bottled water because it
satisfies thirst, has NO measurable sodium. [at least that is my
understanding] Plus, left over coffee can be reheated days later and still
Distilled water also works for coffee/tea, but often because the distilled
water has sat for so long, the coffee/tea has a peculiar taste, like
plastic. Importantly, it is my undertanding, don't drink distilled water.
You get some minerals you need from water and distilled water of course
My wife has no problem with taste and cooks or makes tea with our well
water but just does not drink the pure stuff because of deposits.
I'll figure it out but there may be an oxidation phenomenon that makes
less soluble salts.
Years ago when my mother and father were alive, they would often come to
our house for drinking water as sometimes the city water had off taste.
I worked in the city and could not stand the chlorine taste and odor
of the tap water at times.
On 5/1/2015 9:51 AM, email@example.com wrote:
Chlorine will go away by evaporation or oxidizing other stuff in the
water. City water here came from streams that sometimes got
contaminated by phenolic compounds which would get chlorinated, remain
in the water and make it taste worse. That's when Mom and Dad would get
On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 1:51:17 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
er in the fridge for about 1 day, the chlorine smell/taste goes away.
In many cities including mine, chlorine is no longer used as the disinfecta
nt for water. That is because it can react with organics in the water and
produce trihalomethanes, and there are EPA limits on how much of those can
So it has been replaced by chloramine, a combination of chlorine and ammoni
a. This is a weaker disinfectant but it persists much longer - no way it's
gone in a day, it may be there a week.
But it shouldn't smell at all. If properly mixed it is all monochloramine
and has no smell. If it smells of chlorine it has some dichloramine in it
and it has less disinfectant qualities. If it smells medicinal then it has
gone to trichloramine and it doesn't disinfect at all.
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