I had posted a question about the whitish film my Maytag dishwasher was
leaving on stainless flatware and promised to post the solution when I
found it. Well, I did.
Whoever suggested TSP hit the nail right on the head. As it turned out,
I was unable to find any at either Lowes or Ace so i had to go to the
internet. Amazon sells it; it arrived today.
The first thing I did was mix up 15% TSP (by weight) and add it to my
box of Cascade, then ran a load of dishes. EUREKA! No more film.
I want to thank all of those who replied to my post and offered
suggestions. I was on the verge of buying a new machine but don't need
to do so now. Thanks so much.
If you are a true red/green color-blind (protanopia) then reds and
greens appear as shades of yellow.
A given shade of red with the same intensity as a selected shade of
green would be visually indisinguisable.
Shades of red and green that have different intensities would be
visually distinguisable - but you couldn't tell me which one is the
green one (or the red one).
Look at this image:
There are 7 color bars in that image.
Do the bars that are second from the top and four from the top look
similar (or even identical) to you?
Nope. All distinctly different.
I've been told I'm red/green color blind more than once.
Not something I'm likely to forget since it was what got me into the
Navy barred me from anything with electricity and aviation.
One of my low points
This is the test I flunked in the Navy and elsewhere.
Only number I see is the 25.
But I passed another test - Coast Guard license I think - where I was
asked to pick different colored pieces of yarn from a box.
No problem quickly picking red and green.
But the tester noticed I went after shades that he would have passed
by for more obvious ones.
He asked if I ever failed a test and I said yes.
He didn't care. I passed HIS test.
Like I said, different definitions.
It has been in some areas. It is here (Chesapeake Bay watershed) It
is still available on other areas although it wouldn't surprise me in
the least if it were banned in other unrelated areas for similar
reasons. I'm guessing that that is why the OP had to resort to the
interwebs to get it.
You might as well get over that. I've been pushing for universal bottom
posting for years and have gotten nowhere. Now I'd just be satisfied if
people would trim their quotations. All it's supposed to be is a
reference to the answer; not an archive of the thread.
I don't expect to win that battle either.
When we were dealing with paper correspondence, did we take all the
previous documents out of the ring binder, put the new letter on the
bottom, then carefully replace all the previous ones, taking care not to
rip out the carefully punched holes? No, I thought not.
Now I just tend to follow the trend in any specific thread.
Can you imagine if we tried to read books that way, starting with the
most recently written and finishing up with the stuff from the beginning?
I do prefer bottom posting. When it's done correctly, it's easier to
read one or two paragraphs of quoted material, followed by however much
of a reply as you care to post. Scrolling isn't an issue if it occurs
while you're actively reading something.
The whole point of bottom posting is to put things into the natural flow
of things: first things first; later things later. The only problem
with it occurs when people are too lazy to trim earlier postings. Then
you have to scroll ALL THE WAY to the bottom to find the new material.
Top posting skirts that issue by posting the new material at the top.
It's suited best for those situations where the new material is less
than a full screen's worth, so you don't have to scroll to find what the
message is answering. Of course, most top posters then are too lazy to
trim anything below so as a thread progresses, a one or two line reply
tows along an extra thousand lines or more of previously posted crap.
How fast would the internet be if we didn't keep reposting material
nobody is going to read again?
I liken it to spam. How much faster would the internet be if we didn't
have to receive 40 spam messages for every legitimate one? I recognize
that most spam gets caught in filters, but how much of our capacity is
wasted dealing with the unnecessary?
At this point in my life, I couldn't really care less if one top or
bottom posts but I do care about the extraneous material that gets sent
along with it.
The only reason people spam is to piss certain people off.
Most of the spam nowadays is just nonsense. Very few are trying to
sell you something, or scam money from you, or load a virus on your
computer. You just aren't going to get enough people to fall for a
scam these days to make it worth your effort and risk exposure.
Spam is the modern day equivalent of breathing on your little sister
during a long road trip to get a rise out of her.
Let me explain. Stormin Mormon topposts, and right under his post is his
sig delimiter and sig. That makes the previous posters' text disappear
when I quote Stormy, and my reder is set to distinguish by font those
previous posters' texts. In my newsreader the whole thing becomes
unreadable. It's not just the top posting, but the sig placement that
confounds things. And this can be easily avoided if Stormy stays with what
is convention here.
Actually, it's no bog deal.If there is something really, REALLY interesting
I'll ferret it out!
I think it is just simple common courtesy to use whatever the norm
might be. For this group that would be bottom posting. If everyone on a
sidewalk is say walking on the right side what is proved if someone
decides to annoy everyone by walking on the left?
Try kill-filing top-posters. Their posts generally aren't worth
reading, much less deciphering. You'll be amazed at how much more
enjoyable you NG experience will be, and how you don't miss them at
If TSP isn't available in your area and you have to order it, you may want to
order a related chemical - Sodium Tripoly Phosphate. It's functionally the same
as TSP when used as a binder (softening agent) and also used as a seafood
preservative. Not classically a consumer product, but available on eBay and the
web in bulk.
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