45-50 miles and in a hole, we had spent so much trying to get analog;
Rotor, big fringe antenna, amplifier, best quality coax, and still
results were dismal. The converter box was another story, we
immediately got all the normal channels + a few from way east off the
side of the antenna. if we turn it we can get many more, but they are
redundant, I get the four main networks + CW & an assortment of UHF
type stations, most of which are religious or Spanish, so we block
I had very bad reception and only 3 or 4 channels, often unwatchable.
With digital I now have 6 channels (without counting the -2 -3
simulcasts) and 3 or 4 more that are the same as other channels I get.
I have the antenna about 20' taller than the roof and a rotator. I want
to try going taller yet but I need a 2nd person and some guy line. BTW,
to go 20 feet up, I'm using black pipe, not antenna mast. My biggest
problem is a mountain blocking about 180 degrees of reception area. The
distance to the stations I receive is about 30 to 90 miles, probably
further yet are those channels that are all the same and I deleted them.
The mountain plays tricks here. All 6 of those channels come in
fairly good with the antenna pointed in what should be the WRONG
direction for all of them. About 90 degrees off. To get a 7th channel,
a very good PBS station, I have to rotate the antenna and it seems like
it's hit or miss with the rotator just where it's going to work tonight.
I live 50 miles northwest of New York City.
My rooftop antenna system consists of a rotor, separate UHF and VHF
high band antennas, connected to a CM 7777
mast mounted pre amplifier.
The engineers continue to play with the antennas and power output at the
Empire State Building, and reception is a very mixed bag. UHF channels
are more reliable than the VHF high band channels. VHF channels are
stronger in the morning on cold days with snow and ice on the ground.
After a rain storm I can receive WABC channel 7 if I point my antenna
towards a cell tower about one mile away. Once the tower dries out the
signal dies. The most reliable signals are from WCBS, WNBC, WNYW, WWOR,
and WPIX. The non English audio, infomercial, and holy roller stations
on UHF come in loud and clear at all times, but I don't care for their
programming. Too many of them don't know what to do with their sub
channels, wasting bandwidth on poor quality 24 hour a day traffic cams,
canned low cost junk programming, rebroadcasts of weather forecast
audio. I used to get many of the PBS stations, until their money sources
died up and they reduced their transmitter power.
Not all converter boxes have the same design receiver chip sets. Some
are much better than others.
People at dbstalk have complained about the OTA capabilities of DirecTV
DVR's for some time. Many claim the tuners are inferior to the ones on
their HDTV sets. That hasn't been my experience. I've got a 37-year-old
rooftop UHF/VHF antenna and am about 38 miles from Mount Wilson, where
most of the Southern California stations are located. I get excellent
pictures OTA on my main Sony Bravia HDTV set and my smaller Sceptre HDTV
set. I get acceptable pictures on my old Sylvania CRT using a converter
box. I can receive local channels via satellite or OTA on my DirecTV
DVR. The input from my rooftop antenna is split four ways with no
What looked really bad was the analog signals OTA on the two HDTV sets
before the digital signals took over.
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:45:34 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
I have a 50" plasma theater room and use an attic antenna to pick up
all three PBS channels. The attic antenna is also connected to my TV
Hauppage tuner card (about $70) where I can record hi-def programs.
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:11:49 -0800 (PST), " firstname.lastname@example.org"
By Harry A. Jessell
TVNewsCheck, Dec 11 2009, 4:00 PM ET
The National Association of Broadcasters is asking TV stations to join
the fight to preserve broadcast spectrum by airing an NAB-produced
30-second spot touting the benefits of free, over-the-air
...The broadcast industry could see the greatest assault on the public
airwaves since the 1980s, with the anticipated release of the FCC's
National Broadband Plan set for February 17, 2010," says the e-mail.
The NAB fears that the plan will recommend that all or some of
broadcast spectrum be reallocated for wireless broadband access, a
service the FCC believes will soon be facing a spectrum shortage.
On 01/13/10 07:11 pm, email@example.com wrote:
That would be crazy so soon after the broadcasters have spent large sums
of money on new equipment and dumped still-working but no longer usable
However, my broadcast-engineer friend did say that he wonders how much
longer traditional radio broadcasting is going to survive. (Perhaps
we'll all have to have satellite for that too.)
They had to buy all new equipment for the digital transition. You may
remember they ran their existing equipment on their old channels and
then added a complete set of equipment: transmitter, waveguides,
antennas, STL etc to transmit the "digital" signal while still keeping
the existing equipment in service.
If their new frequency assignment iss close to the old one, that
probably was possible. But part of the reason for getting rid of analog
broadcasting was to free up the low VHF channels. Our old Ch. 3 still
appears as Ch. 3 because the TV figures out the translation, but it's
actually on Ch. 8. Our old Ch. 13 is now -- IIRC -- on Ch. 39. Major
equipment replacement needed.
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:02:59 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
Here there were no stations on VHF Lo (2-6), 1 on VHF Hi (7-13), and
the rest on UHF. They all stayed in the same band after conversion.
Channel 7 (ABC) used 10 for digital, and changed back to 7 after the
analog was turned off.
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