On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 02:38:55 +0000, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
Mine's a cheapie too, but it still (house is almost 20 years old) works
fairly well. It kinda sticks if it's rammed home, but otherwise it rolls
well. Were I planning to stay for several more years I'd likely put it on
the upgrade list, but I'm not, so it's not.
Nothign wrong with swinging patio doors. Sliders, let's see:
Mine is a quality Anderson.
Lousy job of sealing drafts out
Constant problem keeping the track clean.
Rollers are a bitch to change.
Need a separate flimsy sliding screen if you want it open in nice
weather. The screen comes off the track if you even breath on it
Limited width for moving things in and out with no way to widen it.
Poor security at least on mine, a couple flimsy little hooked pins is
all it is.
I m sure there are other drawbacks. As for view - yes, it does give
you that but is it that much more view than a good swinging patio door?
That is another "told ya so" for my wife and I remind her that I "told
you so" when she insisted on having one evey time she bitches about it
(same with the wallpaper).
Sorry to hear that Anderson is not up to par with that model. My Pella has
no drafts, never needed changed rollers (this is our main door too), screen
is sturdy and never came off the track.
How wide is your door that it is a limitation? Mine is an 8' and the true
full opening is wider than any other door in the house, close to 4'. For
security, there are two locks, one on the handle, the other on the track.
Our experiences are pretty close to complete opposite. I'd put in another
tomorrow based on the good results with this door. As state in another
post, the original put in by the builder was crap. This was expensive, but
Have you picked an agent out yet? Why not ask him/her? They should know what
sells in your area in that price range. And they're motivated to sell. Of
course, they don't care how much you put into it, but at least it's another
It is not always easier, trying to guess what will please buyers.
Everyone is different. One trend around here is to set an asking price
then offer a carpet replacement allowance. You may have to lift up the
carpet so that prospective buyers can look at the hardwood themselves
and judge whether it's good enough to repair. Hardwood is a big seller
down here....be sure to get estimates on carpet replacement and
repair/cleaning hardwood...before setting the amount of allowance you
will give back to buyer.
"One trend around here is to set an asking price
then offer a carpet replacement allowance. "
Trying to sell a house with carpet in poor shape IMO, is not a good
idea even with a credit. Many buyers will devalue the home based on
overall impression because of the way it looks more than the value of a
reasonable carpet credit. You may find a buyer who will not, but it
could take much longer
If the hardwood floors just need to be refinished, I would get the
carpet out and do it pronto.
Is that refinishing with sanding, staining, etc?
If so, I'd get inexpensive low-pile neutral-colored carpet, and state that the
hardwood floors are under there.
I wouldn't be moving furniture out, being off the floors for days, putting up
with all that, just for a sale.
Yeah, I know hardwood floors are the hot thing right now, but...
There are a lot of buyers most interested in things being move-in for a start,
then get do what they want as time goes on. Mebbe they didn't WANT the floors to
be honey-oak, they'll be staining it a darker color anyway.
Just do what you need to make the house move-in, and that's it.
And I think the HGTV shows are designed to sell designers and remodellers.
"Is that refinishing with sanding, staining, etc?
If so, I'd get inexpensive low-pile neutral-colored carpet, and state
hardwood floors are under there. I wouldn't be moving furniture out,
being off the floors for days, putting up
with all that, just for a sale. "
Doesn't sound like all that much trouble to make a house look really
good with hardwood floors. You want to get a high price and quick
sals. Brand new hardwood floors are going to do a lot more to achieve
that than some contractor grade carpet. And I would expect the carpet
to cost more than the refinishing. Telling buyers there are wood
floors underneath isn't going to do much. The buyers will figure they
must be crap, otherwise you wouldn't be covering them up with new
carpet. And there's no way for them to know the truth either, since
they can't see the wood without ripping out the carpet.
Naw - it's very common to have rugs over hardwood, and state that. Believe it
or not, a lot of folks LIKE carpeting, and aren't just hiding icky hardwood
I mean, if you're Mr. Flip This House - OK, do the hardwood floor thang.
But most people are actually trying to LIVE in their houses, and make a living,
and have fun with friends, and tend to kids, etc. etc. etc., when they're fixing
to sell. I just think there are other factors here other than totally sprucing
a house up for market.
Sanding/staining/etc. is a BIG hassle. Getting a new carpet in isn't.
It's the different philosophies in selling houses. I'm in the midddle. On one
hand, you aren't going to move something in the market very well that folks have
to put a fair amount of money in just to get their family and furniture in -
although some folks say just sell as is. On the other hand, IMO it's just nuts
to spend $$$, mucho energy and time fixing up *somebody else's house* when
you're trying to actually, y'know, LIVE a LIFE in THAT HOUSE.
So, IME and from folks in family and friends in real estate, a decent in-between
philosophy is to fix things that most folks would find hard to live with and
that might signal worries about the house condition, and that's it. Mebbe the
house that Lisa LaPorta has fixed up for HGTV next door, or that Mr. Flippit has
granite-countered, travertine-bathed, and hardwood-floored down the block, will
move a little faster, but you'll get a decent price and actually not have to
visit the doc for a back problem and the marriage counsellor before it's over.
"On the other hand, IMO it's just nuts
to spend $$$, mucho energy and time fixing up *somebody else's house*
you're trying to actually, y'know, LIVE a LIFE in THAT HOUSE.
So, IME and from folks in family and friends in real estate, a decent
philosophy is to fix things that most folks would find hard to live
that might signal worries about the house condition, and that's it. "
So, based on that, you'd go and spend money for new carpet, when you
could thow out the old carpet, have the existing hardwood floors
refinished, and have hardwood floors to show, for less than the cost of
Read Freakonomics. It has a very interesting analysis about Real
Estate agents and how they may, or may not be motivated to sell you
house for the highest amount possible.
(Remove the Primes before e-mailing me)
Never read it, but the scenario is easy with anyone working on commission.
Do you want 3% of $200,000 today or do you want to risk waiting because you
may get $205,00 next week or the week after. Or you may not get another
offer for two more months and it may be even less? OK what do you want to
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